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Need help from irish, a french guy...

  • 28-07-2024 11:40am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3


    Hello there, im french my name is Roman i have 30 and living in a village "Maule" in France.

    Thursday 18 July 12h30, one of your fellow citizens scammed me, he was in an English car with his 2 children, I had just come out of rehabilitation with my physiotherapist when he came upon me in our small village, he asked me for €400 because he saying that all his things in Paris had been stolen from him and he needed to get home, gas and ferry...I told him that I couldn't take the risk on such a large sum, I'm in a difficult situation... But he forced my hand by taking out his phone using app bank of ireland and made a transfer in my name which I gave to him, I thought it was sincere but I still refused and he got angry saying that the money had gone into my account and that I owed him €400, he swore on God, there were his children, I was fragile and I am a guy full of help and compassion, in short I gave him 400€ cash... I don't know what's credible about his story, what's certain is that I was robbed of €400 by this Irish guy and I feel **** and guilty for wanting to help people so much.

    But i took the phone number of this man and his ID car which are :

    08 51 91 94 22 (00 353 85 191 9422)

    CX57KTM (maybe car rental)

    I phoned to him but he blocked me If you guys can help me to find the identity of this irish man or just talk to encourage him to send me some back, i will appreciate…thanks

    Post edited by Spear on


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,492 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Your best chance is UK police with the car registration.

    That is not an Irish car and it is not northern Ireland.

    The phone could be a temporary phone but you could also call bank of Ireland to maybe see can they help.

    However, proving any of this is going to be difficult.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    He could not have done a bank transfer with just your name. Who is the scammer round here? Fortunately you are in the wrong forum so very few people will see this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭Avatar in the Post


    How did he convince you he transferred €400 to your account? Why didn’t you direct him to an ATM?

    Maybe put up your go fund me page and we’ll each give you €400.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭wildwillow


    It's a scam alright. The bank page is a clone and it looks as if the money has been transferred. I have heard about this scam on BBC radio. Agree the best course of action is contact the British police, but I wouldn't hold out much hope of getting the money back.

    It is a warning to everyone not to be generous to strangers. Awful advice but no good deed goes unpunished nowadays.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,832 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Why not go to the French police first? Given that the scammer might still be there, and might have also scammed others.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    hmm…he asked you for €400, and to convince you to give it to him, he deposits €400 into your bank account? yeh, that makes total sense…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Roman78


    Yes i will but he is in UK now....

    Yes he convince me vecause he needed cash he had no money no card only his phone...

    I gave him my name + iban but yes it looks like a fake app of bank of ireland

    Thanks all im sad more about the scam than the money, i think the best thing is to accept and forget it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    Did you report the scam to the police?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,762 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    What colour was the car?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,223 ✭✭✭Tow


    The car registration comes back as unknown on the UK Government sites to check car Tax/MOT.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,762 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    CX would be Wales where the car was originally registered, 57 would be a late 2007/early 2008 car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Roman78


    Car grey wolkswagen looks like a transporter Touran from 2008 with 7 places



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,427 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    You need to report this to the French police at the very least. They may be able to pull any CCTV footage in the area to get a picture of the man

    I don't think you're going to get your money back unfortunately. It's a tough life lesson but there it is

    It's likely the registration was faked, or a clone plate. They're relatively easy to get, so the car registration might lead nowhere

    The phone number might be a better lead, although the guy could just as easily use a burner phone

    I would guess the thief is driving around scamming multiple people, probably taking advantage of the number of tourists in France for the Olympics.

    There's a possibility they were picked up by the police and by reporting your experience you could aid the case against them and hopefully recover some of your money

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,238 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    The number hasn't been checked by anyone else on Tellows yet anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,832 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Report it and explain how you were pressurized and intimidated into giving the money against your will



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    vous devez donc vous présenter à la police française, c'est une voiture britannique, pas irlandaise, notez la couleur de la voiture et la description des personnes

    pour toute escroquerie irlandaise, je téléphone parfois à une émission radio populaire pilotée par les appelants appelée Liveline, animée par Joe Duffy. Joe@rte.ie





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Ah the poor guy, nobody deserves that, he would be minced!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭Augme


    Just as a general FYI for other reading this thread. Lots of scams now a day's involve someone transferring money on fraudulent apps that look like real ones. It's a been fairly common scam on donedeal etc where people turn up to buy something, carry out a "transfer" in front of the seller and then the seller assumes its genuine and hands over the item and off the "buyer" goes. Unfortunately when the seller soon checks his account they realise they've been scammed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Wasn't the driver very lucky that the guy just happened to have €400 in cash on him, that he didn't immediately need for a specific purpose, and he was the very person that the driver spoke to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,427 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    To be fair I've seen scammers operating on the trains here who will literally give their sob story to the next person in line after being told to piss off

    Lad in the van could be driving around asking 10 people an hour, only need to fool a few of them

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭PixelCrafter


    Sorry to hear this happened, but you need to contact your own local police. There's really nothing anyone can do for you on an Internet forum.

    Tel: 01.78.73.11.11

    https://demarchesadministratives.fr/commissariat-police/maule-78580

    The British registration plate you posted is not listed for any car. It's in the format of a car in England, Scotland or Wales though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,146 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    This is a fairly well-known scam every summer at motorway rest stations in France. I've come across it myself about 5 years ago, but because I was Irish (albeit in a non Irish reg car, which is why the two men hadn't expected an English speaker) and, more importantly perhaps, had two tall teenage boys arrive back - they had been out of sight walking our big dog when the guy came up to me - he quickly made his excuses and left.

    They seem to be travellers with strong Irish accents. Very well dressed, like businessmen, and in a nice car (not sure what make now). He was in the process of telling me a sob story about having been robbed getting off the ferry, even though he was heading the wrong way for someone who had just arrived.

    Anyway, the OP is almost certainly not lying. It's a thing, and is doing Ireland's reputation a lot of harm on the continent - I've seen it referred to on the news as "the Irish scam". Calling the OP a scammer is a bit much, considering he's not asking for money himself.

    Uncivil to the President (24 hour forum ban)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    It’s an old scam - a friend of mine got done for £10 in London about 15 years ago by a guy using a similar sob story - in his case his car broke down a mile away and needed £10 for petrol -he had a car full of kids in the back so he said along with a pregnant wife🤪-amount might be a lot smaller but the scam principal remains the same



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    Unfortunately I think you know this but there is nothing credible about this story. What stranger asks another one on the street for a loan of 400€ legitimately..... No one.... Good luck but the money is gone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,604 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The money might be gone but it's still worth pursuing to get the criminal responsible, at very least so they don't do it again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭GavPJ


    Part of their culture…………



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,762 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭65535


    If you dial #31#and then the mobile number

    085 191 9422 you get answered (the #31# is to withhold your id on a per call basis)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,146 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    The people they describe at the end of this article sound very like the ones I came across - but in our case it was definitely before covid:

    In 2022, two Irish men were sentenced to 12 months in France for a similar scam targeting English-speaking tourists at motorway service areas.

    Described as being “well-presented” and claiming to have had their cash stolen, they managed to trick several people out of a “substantial” sum of money, according to local media.

    Uncivil to the President (24 hour forum ban)



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