Great White Sharks

Watching a documentary that 17 GWs were killed by Orcas recently in Australia. It seems the main problem for the GWs isn't so much they're smaller, it's more they're too stupid to work together. They keep getting blindsided by one Orca distracting a them, while the other Orca then kills him from behind basically. There's actually more GWs than Orcas, so if they knew how to work together, they'd probably outnumber them.

Someone also said the GWs often get killed by Orcas when they're migrating past South Africa, which is true, but said that they're terrified of them. They GWs are wary of the Orca but not terrified, which is half the reason they get killed. The GW will retreat somewhat from them, but stay swimming around the area sussing them out, half thinking whether it could take them, well as much as a shark can "think". Which is what then leads to them being blindsided. While it's watching one Orca from a distance, it's completely oblivious to the fact the Orcas are working together, with another coming up around it.

On a recent documentary on the discovery channel, they played different dolphin noises to GW's, and when they played the Orca signal, they retreated but only to a distance where they could still see and suss out what was going on. And then a GW, that had been attacked by Orcas before, still came back and approached the area. So if they actually did run, they'd fare better, their problem seems to be they only retreat to a distance they think they're safe, watching the Orcas.

So it's not that the GWs are terrified, it's more they're too stupid to work together like the Orcas do, and keep getting isolated and blindsided by them, thinking they're at a safe distance to suss the Orcas out. The Orcas know they can outsmart them.

Still, nothing more terrifying than a GW. The black soulless eyes on them, there's nothing in their head only evil. At least an Orca has a bit of a "personality", infact most creature's do. A GW is unique in that it seems like it has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, its just evil incarnate!

The GWs are so brazen, it takes that many to die before they'll retreat. They reckon the theory is, a GW fancies itself against an Orca one on one, but can never get the opportunity as they're always in pods.

And the GW becomes so consumed and tunnel visioned with watching one singular Orca they've picked out from a distance, and are waiting for it to leave it's pod, that it's completely oblivious to everything else happening around it, and then it's picked off.

The GWs downfall seems to be it's brain-dead, arrogant, with an ego complex in an evolutionary sense

Ocearch will be traveling to Irish Waters in September to look for Great Whites. Before that they visit the Atlantic coasts of Spain & France. They have a theory that Great Whites leave the Mediterranean to feed on seals and tuna in the eastern atlantic. It would be amazing to find them in Irish Waters.

https://www.ocearch.org/expeditions/expedition-save-the-med/

Your right in that there has been a few mix ups, with casual observers mistaking other sharks for Great Whites. The area in Scotland that you replied to the poster originally, wasn't where this sighting took place.

What really got me interested in this, was I seen a video a few days ago with an Irish lad on a padal, coming accross an Orca underneath him. The Orca left, as thats not "his prey". Now a GW will bite you before he realised thats not "his prey", and then may or may not leave you. But upon further reading, only 10% of GW encounters with humans are actually fatal. The reason being, if you "redirect it" once it gets too close to you, it's too stupid to realise what just happened, gets confused, and has to start the "sussing out" circling process again, but is coming for you. Generally though, it gives most people time to get away.

And likewise, if it does bite you, and it realises your not his standard prey, has to step back and weigh up the confusion once more. That's how basic the GW seems to be in intelligience, working generally off tunnelled vision insticnt, to its own peril against orcas. But no fcuks given.

The shark that returned after they played the Orca sonar on the discovery channel, had been attacked by orcas, but couldn't wait to come back. He got confused by what was happening with the sonar, and when he couldn't see any Orca's come once he retreated, reckoned it must of been one Orca by itself, or so they said, I'm no expert. So withing 5 minutes was back on the scene looking for it, thinking he had one isolated. That's the brass neck he had on him.

Its actually fascinating when you look into it. Even with smaller prey, an Orca will do it in pods, never alone as it's not that "confident". Then on the other hand, you'll have a GW by itself, too stupid to even understand the concept of danger, circling pods of killer whales looking to isolate one. They realise eventually obviously, and can't work together to counter their demise, but it takes alot of them to be killed before they'll retreat. An inbuilt evolutionary arrogance and ego in them.

The GW is the work of the devil, no question! I'd rather take my chances with an Orca any day, than with that dead eyed abyss of evil that we call the GW. Of note too, there's been no instances where an Orca faced a GW by itself. There's been many though where a GW, although killed, faced off and fought it's corner against multiple Orca's. I'd like to see a one v one scenario, but I don't think the Orca would go for it, too risky even if it's odds on, whereas it's the situation the GW actively tries to manufacture!

Nah I don't mind them really. Just find them fascinating. Something unnerving but interesting about their appearance and eyes, how something can be alive, but simultaneously look so dead eyed and callous. Amazing creatures really. The apex predator as they say!

I think even 4 meters would be small. The average 5/5.5 possibly? What's it like around them? They unnerving?

I can only imagine. Serious power in them. On the discovery channel, when they heard the sonar of smaller dolphins, something clicks and they attack the cages. Tunnelled vision power and intensity, that I've never seen before.

What are their eyes like that close up? Are they jarring/unnerving up close, or is that just how they look? Are they pure black, or is there more if you look closely?

You swam even after seeing that? What shark was it?