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Limerick Businesses Opening

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    Others would disagree. There are no standards enforced whatsoever on William Street. From unauthorised and outrageously poor signage to dreadful maintenance of upper floors,long term vacancy and poor public realm.

    There is also a proliferation of low order uses such as bookies, charity shops, tech repair and general tat shops and dingy takeaways. There has to be some attempt by Council to limit the damage and help reintroduce some higher standards of occupancy to the street.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Yes, it’s a nice kebab shop but it’s still a kebab shop. I think that’s the point that’s being made by Vanquished and a point which I fully agree with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    They should introduce a minimum standard shop front on all new shops opening. Something like Enzo's or O'Connor's. They talked about it but they will be afraid of people going to the papers saying they are anti business.

    Turkman are not any of those shops you mentioned above though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Not sure what amazing business is gonna go into that tiny unit. Another coffee shop maybe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    I think this is the second time in this thread that Turkman Grill has been referred to as "another kebab shop" . In fairness to them they continually upgrade the inside of their restaurant. It's always busy so must do good food. It's more of a Turkish restaurant than just a Kebab shop. It's not like a standard place that goes Kebabs, burgers, fish and chips and pizzas.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It was also described as "a poor calibre business" which is a disgraceful thing to say about them.

    Ide love to hear what people think might actually move into these old units.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Cetyl Palmitate


    Turkmen grill is one of the best casual restaurants in Limerick. Their lamb chops are lovely. Tabouleh is nice as a side as well. Even something simple like fresh flatbread and hummus is good.

    There are plenty of poor quality kebab restaurants around but Turkmen grill is not one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    It’s hardly Noma either though is it?

    I’ve eaten in there a few times and it’s fairly bog standard in terms of fit out and layout and looks exactly like most kebab shops down the town. The food is delicious, I’m not denying that but I’m not sure why you’re so defensive when people don’t agree with your opinion. I don’t think any comments here have been “disgraceful”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I think "poor calibre business" is a disgraceful thing to say. Could have a bit more respect for people who are doing a good job running a business. Especially from someone who complained about the amount of vacancies on the same street.

    There are better streets in Limerick that have empty units so what exactly are people expecting to move in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    You have to laugh really at the preciousness being displayed here over a fast food business. Maybe it's a little insight into why low standards are tolerated so readily in Limerick if people are eulogising junk food outlets so much. We often hear of how "beloved" the Chicken Hut is to Limerick people also.🙈

    Say what you like but a business serving high fat, high salt, high sugar food lacking in nutrients is a low calibre business and I don't care what anyone says.

    Yes there are undoubted issues in attracting new businesses to Limerick city centre. National not to mind international retailers etc. are showing little interest in setting up here. Many units have been vacant for years now but that doesn't mean that we exacerbate the perception of the city centre being an unattractive commercial location by allowing the likes of takeaways, vape shops, tech repair and tat stores, charity shops, bookies etc. to further proliferate. There are many alternative types of businesses that could be encouraged to set up in the William Street unit under discussion. It extends well back onto Chapel Lane and Cruises Street so it's floorspace could definitely be maximised. A cafe would certainly be a better use, as would a pastry store, a bakery, health food store, a butcher, craft shop, jeweller, shoe shop, cosmetics, homewares etc etc. We don't have to settle for the lowest common denominator.

    Yes the Council could be a bit more pro-active by offering rate cuts, holidays and start up support grants. Along with just generally cleaning, repairing and improving the appearance of streets. Implementing some long overdue public realm upgrades also. It can be done and it must be done if the city centre has any chance of rebounding.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I've always thought a coffee shop would do really well there by the bus stop. Really elaborate pastry shops like Angel Dust seem to be a thing other places which we will hopefully see more of. Good quality pizza by the slice is all over the other cities too for a few years now and I'm still surprised it hasn't happened here.

    As for being precious I have the opposite view. I think people get too precious here every time a shop opens that isn't some high end retailer. And everywhere has it's Chicken Hut or Donkeys, it's not a Limerick or even an Irish thing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Vanquished


    It's not even about high end retail. That isn't coming to Limerick city centre any time soon until we significantly boost the population of the city centre, comprehensively upgrade our embarrassing public realm, increase the Garda presence and just generally make it a vastly more attractive place for residents and visitors. I'd settle for just a semblance of quality at this stage considering the commercial fortunes of the city centre have been in decline for 20 years at this stage.

    There is a very surprising lack of cafes on William Street given the length of the street and the fact that it's the second most important commercial street in the city centre. I think there are only two coffee shops between O'Connell Street and Gerald Griffin Street with just one more then on Upper William Street.

    Pizza slice outlets are a very weird absentee in Limerick alright considering how common they are all over Europe. Good quality Asian or Middle Eastern street food hatches are another miss here. We're generally not seeing the same level of investment in either existing or new hospitality businesses in the city centre as comparable regional cities are. We're a bit behind the curve for sure. There are many former hospitality units still vacant in the city centre for a number of years now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I would put the coffee problem on William St. down to the traffic. Jus thinking of ourselves, Cork and Galway they tend to coalesce around the low traffic areas (with exceptions obviously). I think the only saving of William St. Is to expand what was done on Catherine St. but I don't see anyone being brave enough to do it.

    We are in a tough place coming out of a recession and a bad reputation into a world where high street shopping is in massive decline. Added to that we are in a country with an anti city living attitude.



  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭Zverklez


    I might pop in for a kebab after reading all of this nonsense



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭Paddico


    Me too. Most places buy that dreadful doner meat from the wholesalers. Zero effort to do some homemade food.

    Those boys actually sound really good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭Louche Lad


    Former Hogans butchers in William St to become a restaurant: https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/1572968/plans-revealed-at-former-butchers-shop-in-limerick.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    Mentioned by Vanquished last month (See post #10202). Nice to see The Leader still have their finger on the Pulse 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Well it is important in the sense that it doesn't mention Turkman. He actually says it will be something different to what he has done before.

    I googled the guy in the article who is moving into William St. and he seems to also be involved in the Eskimo Pizza franchise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    That’s not what the drawings submitted as part of the planning application suggest. The proposed signage says Turkmen Grill and the proposed layout would indicate the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Fair enough. I didn't realise the plans were up.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 330 ✭✭wildrover444


    I see Chill the beans coffee shop opening in the Groody centre. Signs are up . Don't think it open just yet. What are they like .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,865 ✭✭✭✭callaway92




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Its a regular coffee shop but if their Clareview one is anything to go by they'll be rammed out the door.



  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭Luker


    anyone know what’s going into where Tuscany was in Dooradoyle. I saw them put banners on the windows earlier on the week but the shutters were down today. The for sale/rent sign has been taken down



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tree


    On the other side of that garage in Dooradoyle, the old pharmacy has new CarePlus signage gone up in the last couple of weeks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭Luker


    yes, keatings have it, same owners as the one down by PTSB near the crescent (I believe) it’s opened since 10th June.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    Someone posting on Limerick City Citizens forum on Facebook that Burger King Parkway is closed and will be replaced by a Starbucks drive thru.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 2,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭angeldaisy


    Old tuscany unit, on the door it says Bunda Brothers, no other info, just the tagline 'are you ready to get smashed'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Bunda is seemingly a term for a nice Latin arsse in Britain.

    My guess with the smashed comment is it will be a burger place.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Candlel


    Maybe the problem is with the name. To me it sounds like a cheap kebab place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    I see Lock Quay Service Station has re-opened under new branding. Anyone know the source/brand of their fuel?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Are you just going off that old tweet or is that out there in other places.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    The business’s instagram only follows 4 people, two of which are Hayes and Ashling Thompson who is O’Donovan’s girlfriend.

    The page is also heavily followed by Limerick GAA players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Well spotted.

    Separately I saw that the Duo spot on Sarsfield St. is a hair salon. Looks like it's on the more upmarket end to my amateur eyes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    That’s a salon named Odd. They have been trading on Thomas Street for a few years and have relocated to a bigger unit.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭pigtown


    Not a new opening exactly but Eli Lilly have announced another 150 jobs in a $1bn investment at their Raheen plant.



  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Fantastic news. One thousand million dollars is some investment in a city that only a few years ago many people claimed was in 'terminal decline'. Pity, that meanwhile UL are unable to proceed with the Veterinary College. I presume recent controversies are impacting the university's plans to proceed with various developments, particularly their proposed, and very ambitious, Strategic Development Zone.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭pigtown


    It is a shame about the veterinary college. I'm more concerned about what happens to their Honan's Quay site though than their misguided SDZ idea.



  • Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    I have tried to copy these comments to the Limerick Improvement Page as I think that's the best place for discussion about the positive things that are happening in the city and its environs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    seems to be a cookstown based oil company who mainly have petrol stations up the north.

    apparently they own a sea tanker so must be a big enough operation

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057751910/go-fuels-prices#

    i filled up with diesel last week no issues

    its just a real pity that there is no longer a shop there anymore



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭topcat72


    With the new gaelscoil up the street past the park, the art college and St Mary's moving temporarily into the old school building beside the Absolut soon enough I'm amazed they didnt go for a shop / deli offer here. Big opportunity on Clare Street for someone doing similar. I see 4th and 5th year students walking out from Gaelscoil at lunch to the Maxol on the Dublin Road.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,161 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    A shop would require a whole team of staff and a supply chain. Might not be something this company wants to deal with.

    Could be something in the new development next to it maybe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭adaminho


    I see the former McDonalds unit on Cruises Street has been sold to the guy that owns Shake Shack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,861 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Would be good to see it back in use again. Wonder if Shake Dog will relocate?

    Also, does Nick Rabbitts have to refer to EVERYTHING as a landmark?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭lordleitrim


    Only if he's not referring to them as iconic....



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