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Newstalk: Off The Ball

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,428 ✭✭✭Morgans


    Yeah. The French and Paris have NEVER insulted Mohammad and know nothing of the consequences of parodying islam.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,112 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    What? That was a brilliant opening ceremony. What the hell is wrong with this woke thing?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭FazyLucker


    Good games, yes. As in watchable. But there was a serious lack of "very good" games. (But also, not all of those games were on TV so most people would not have seen them).



  • Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭Coolcormack1979


    otb towers don’t really reflect normal life.their opinion of the opening ceremony is way off to some that I’ve talked too about it.most opinion was too long and a pile of cowshite

    At one stage it looked more likely the flame for la 28 was going to be lit instead of this year



  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sub3wannabe


    Gers audio from Paris is consistently appalling.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Genuine question

    Most who post on this thread constantly give out about audio quality, wokeness, crap presenters, subscription fees, John Giles, overall poor analysis of sports.

    Why do you keep tuning in? I don't expect a thread to be an echo chamber of super fans fawning over the show but if I dislike something as much as many here seem to dislike OTB then I wouldn't listen.



  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sub3wannabe




  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sub3wannabe


    Genuinely for me at least its a show that I once loved. That I believe has gone significantly down hill in recent years that I still sort of keep in my orbit out of part inertia and nostalgia I guess.

    I take your point though maybe it's timeI just cut ties rather than hang on in the hope that it ever reverts to second captains era golden times.



  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sub3wannabe


    Agreed and also it's a good platform for feedback. You never know they might overcome the woke mind virus and actually become a normal sports show again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,344 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Explain what the woke mind virus is please.

    Regarding complaining about the show - they are the only proper sports radio show mid-week, so I think it's fair that you'll listen to it but still have annoyances. My biggest complaint lately is the sound quality, it seems like it should be very easy to fix too like.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Its very sad when Irish people start reguritating garbage like "woke mind virus". American internet culture is often not healthy or benefical to consume.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    I get that and it's most likely the same for everyone who listens but some posting here have only negative feedback.

    They'll drag a conversation off topic just to point out the bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    It's just internet culture now right?

    Look across all platforms online and people can only see black or white while 99.9% of the real world live in the grey.

    I don't even really know what "woke" or "woke mind virus" mean to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,344 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    That's why I always ask people who give out about woke culture to define it, because I don't know what they mean by it. It's just a buzzword at this stage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sub3wannabe


    Enabling your child to be physically mutilated and be permanently sterile due to a made up ideology and your munchausen by proxy. Would be one example of the social contagion. Mind virus is just a term I suppose.



  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sub3wannabe


    Be interesting to see will OTB touch on the contentious situation in the women's boxing where a transgender athlete is punching the head off women.

    Many journalists such as Vincent Hogan have already spoke out. I suspect OTB will not have the courage to discuss it.

    https://x.com/deves_katherine/status/1818216449296732363?t=x0shqihYG3b8NCj4Ec-kBA&s=19



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,889 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    There's something in human nature that leads some to appeal to fetishizing complaining. This is especially the case when it comes to talking about sports and especially especially when talking about those who talk about sport.

    There's way more posts written about how bad all of these people are than there are commending them or supporting them on their actions. Like ten times the posts I'd say if I have to guess. I think its because people either consciously or subconsciously get annoyed at the fact that someone is getting paid to talk about sports while they have to get up and go out and work for a living.

    People don't see Ger, or Eoin's or Nathan's or Joe's opinion any more valid than their own, but one group gets paid to voice their opinions, the other doesn't. And I think that really annoys some people.

    It's something I've thought about quite a bit, this thread in particularly has been predominantly contributed to by people claiming pretty much everything about the show and its presenters is sh1t. I don't listen to the show as much as I used to so don't contribute here as much either, but when I was a frequent listener, this thread used to make me worry about the mindset of some people. I suppose if its their way of dealing with issues rather than working on them, so be it. But it is annoying for those of us who enjoy the show and appreciate what they've achieved and contributed over the years.

    TLDR - Continuously listening to the show and then incessantly complaining about it is cheaper and less challenging than therapy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sub3wannabe


    Appreciate the gaslighting attempt but I actively post and praise many other presenters of sports shows which basically invalidates your hypothesis.

    As stated many times before, a lot of us grew up with OTB circa Ken Early and the second captains boys and feel invested.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,913 ✭✭✭deisedude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭roosterman71




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭robo


    Great interview tonight by Joe with John Treacy - Joe let John talk about what he felt when he won his silver in 1984 & the insight was great.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,207 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    They've had both Ross Tucker and Niall Moyna on a few different times and all times were really interesting and covered in detail. By a country mile they've covered this issue the best out of all Irish media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,344 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    What are you talking about? Talking points like this clearly come from a certain area of the Internet which is a problematic "mind virus" itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975




  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sub3wannabe


    Mentioned and defended by Richie. I will await the "piece" that Joe has promised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭FazyLucker


    I listen to The Newsround every night Mon-Wed. Its a good summary of the days sport and what is on, sometimes there can be some craic thrown in which is grand.

    I decide whether or not to keep listening based on what is on and what I am doing. If there's an interesting topic or guest, I will listen. Otherwise, I don't.

    I never listen to The Football Show because its too late and I'm not a big football fan. I like A Slight Tangent and The Sunday Paper Review.

    I presume The Independent will have Joe's podcast behind a pay wall - I would probably pay a few quid a month if Joe gave a daily podcast with a decent guest. No way will I ever pay for Ger "Its only a tenner a month" Gilroy's product. Ever.

    Re John Tracey, if people complain about getting his memories about winning a silver medal 40 years ago then we have really reached the point of no return regarding peoples ability to complain about anything.



  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sub3wannabe


    This was ages ago and never built upon once it became a hot potato and the scandals such as The Tavistock Clinic were unearthed.

    OTBs position is pretty clear and supportive judging by Richie McCormacks comments yesterday evening.

    Let's see if they follow through on a piece as Joe has promised. I'd have my doubts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭bike2wkr


    He's entitled to do an interview on it. John Treacy quite a humble person imo



  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sub3wannabe


    Sorry mate I've misquoted. It was in reference to the trans boxing scandal. John Treacy is a class act and a gent of course.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭robo


    It was interesting to hear how Treacy did write a letter to a racing magazine about what he saw on some races, teams injecting and using steroids. And listening to how things were so different back in the 70's and 80's (of course they were) but even on hydration (no science needed for this) and how Treacy learnt from his mistakes and trained in hot conditions in the USA.
    His stories of Jerry Kiernan - and how they trained together on the Dublin mountains, a really good chat between John & Joe, I am going to miss these interviews on OTB. Joe doesn't come to an interview with a strict list of questions, he listens to the person and picks up on what's being said rather than following his script.



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