"Last Supper" depiction at Olympics Opening Ceremony

It’s someone reporting en franglais.
‘Grosse’ in French is large or fat.

Purely out of curiosity… cos to be honest it just didn’t make any sense:

There are various words used to describe the phenomenon, the two most commonly used in English being "fatphobia" or "sizeism".

However, the French equivalent – "grossophobia" – is gaining now gaining some traction thanks to an explosive new book, You're Not Born Fat, written by Gabrielle Deydier.

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/what-grossophobia-we-need-talk-about-thin-privilege-1651566

Article from 2017.

Incidentally, it didn’t gain any traction.

I merely quoted the news article about the threats that have been made to the lady DJ at the Olympic opening ceremony, which used the word.

I'm not really interested into getting into a discussion about those who shame overweight people, or the labels used to describe them.

Though if I did, I can think of a few better words than "grossphobia".

Did you really just use "stabby stabby" to try and back up you nonsense post after the incident in Stockport with actual children dying.

Good luck to you.

It's how often in my experience the people who say you can't insult Islam have never seen things like Four Lions and the "woke people" they are arguing with usually have and love it. Coincidentally it's all my "snowflake" friends who grew up loving Curb, Sunny and South Park. The "you can't say anything these days" people tend to hate those shows.

Really?

Look up Mirna Valerio.

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/uk/fitness/running/a60307859/lululemon-further-ultramarathon-mirna-valerio/

Well, if you won't look her up, I'll tell you about her.

She is 48 years old, and an ultra marathon runner. (That's 50km).

A very inspiring woman. Never judge a book by its cover.

Throwing my 2 cents out there:

Lumping racial discrimination in the same bucket as size discrimination is a joke.

That character in the position of Jesus during the opening ceremony was morbidly obese; there shouldn’t be any protection there to prevent morbidly obese people from being called just that or being discriminated against on the basis of their size/weight.

I don’t give a single flying **** if someone has an issue with that.

We’re slowly normalising being obese. It’s not normal, it’s stupid.

I like you silverharp so this one’s tough, but in this instance you really don’t have a point. I don’t care if anyone is 500lbs and declaring themselves to be the second coming of Christ. It’s the people sending death threats, rape threats and pointing out that anyone is morbidly obese, pointing out that “you wouldn’t do it to de Muslims”, are the people who demonstrate an inability to cope, to the extent that 10 minutes exposure to drag sets them off.

If yer one pops her clogs in the morning, she still has the honour of being remembered for her performance at the Olympics, which likely means as much to her as being the fastest man in the world means to Usain Bolt. Personally speaking, I’m acutely aware of the fact that I should be dead long ago, not because I’m morbidly obese, but from all the smoking, drinking, riding, eating, and copious amounts of drugs I consumed in my youth. Every day I wake up is a fcuking achievement as far as I’m concerned 😂

So you can see why I might wonder how people with such great, happy and healthy lives would take the time out of their incredible day to ensure that someone who isn’t doing them any harm whatsoever, must be informed that they think she deserves to be made feel like shìt?

I don’t expect you to have an answer to that, because if I can’t figure it out, I figure you’re sure as hell not going to be able to offer much in the way of an answer either. I don’t spend that much time thinking about it either, which is why the best answer I have so far is that they’re just despicable pricks.

The backlash was because she appeared at the Olympics. Before then she was literally an unknown. Then the people who claimed to be offended went even further - it wasn’t sacrilegious enough that she appeared at the Olympics, she’s a body positivity activist too! Oh the horror! Like, seriously? What kind of a grown up conversation are you thinking could be had with that sort of idiot? Be better off in my experience just to ignore them and let them stew.

That’s why I say I was surprised by the French Olympic organising committee that they didn’t tell those claiming to be offended to fcuk right off. Not only did they not even do that much, they didn’t even bother to point out that ‘gay Paris’ was a thing long before the term had any homosexual connotations, because of the fact that Paris has historically been the capital of theatre, entertainment and culture in Europe:

https://www.cntraveler.com/story/gay-paris-hotels-restaurants-bars-art-culture-shopping#:~:text=Ah%2C%20oui%2C%20gay%20Paris.,%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cmerry%E2%80%9D).

Instead, they apologised to people who didn’t actually give a shìt whether they did or didn’t apologise, as offence was never the point, it was to humiliate people that they felt were an obstruction to their view of the world. The real obstruction is being unable to see further than the end of their own noses.

Shaming sex workers now?

This thread just keeps giving and giving....

1. I wasn't shaming sex workers.
2. I wasn't shaming anyone.

I had in mind that gay men would not be happy being depicted as they were depicted in the sketch as though they do nothing but take class A drugs, dress up as women and writhe around in a drug induced delusion they look good whilst dancing very badly. That's all. What's wrong with that?

read this a few days ago...

That was meant to be a depiction of gay men?

"I had in mind that gay men would not be happy being depicted as they were depicted in the sketch…."

That is a direct quote from your post, where you directly referenced what you were thinking.

Isn't it odd that the defence that drag is not offensive to gay men because "it doesn't depict gay men" doesn't lead those same people to conclude that drag is offensive to women?

It really seems to be a case of "Who cares, it's only women so it's fine to mock them".

Wait wut

We now need to impress people from failed states who either live in Middle Ages or actively want to return to that time?

What is this woke nonsense

If they don’t like our European culture these people can switch over to the Russian “alternative” games and watch females that are so full of drugs they look like men

its France's PR not mine, I dont care

You picked that up wrong. This was AllforIt’s description of what he saw:

they do nothing but take class A drugs, dress up as women and writhe around in a drug induced delusion they look good whilst dancing very badly.

That pretty much describes plenty of straight men’s drug fuelled nights. Hence the awkward looks meme.

There’s nothing to defend because one man claiming it’s offensive to gay men, really is no different than one woman claiming it’s offensive to women - their argument is so stupid it’s not even worth entertaining. That’s why I said earlier I wasn’t gonna be rude to you, because I don’t want to be rude to anyone. I feel bad for them, but if they insist on it, I’ll take a leaf from Gay Byrne’s book:

And similarly, blackface is not mocking black people - it is performance art, right?

I mean, Lenny Henry wasn't offended by it, since he took part in the Black and White Minstrel Show. He only "noticed" how offensive it was after he had already used the show to make a name for himself and it had started being more of a hindrance to him because other black people didn't like it.

Drag has several strands in its origin, and not all of them are directly mocking women - but a large part of it is. One aspect, as I said before, is the English theatre tradition where young men played female parts because of the biblical stricture that forbade women from speaking in public. But drag isn't just about men playing women's roles for comic effect, as in panto where, in parallel, women act the parts of certain men. It is men portraying women as no more than exaggerated sexual objects that is objectionable in drag.

That many women don't know that - or don't mind it - doesn't really change that. Plenty of women were actively against giving women the vote during the suffragist struggle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-suffragism , and plenty of US women supported overthrowing Roe v Wade, so I don't think women supporting men against women's interests is a new or even unusual thing.

Well if you are genuinely offended by this I'd have to say you're a soft touch.

But the double standard does bother me. I know the type of people who performed in this would be first to cry bloody murder if a similar entertainment piece depicted something similar but related to islamic faith. Which is just nauseating. I have no issue with religion being fair game for mockery but when only one religion is allowed to be mocked in the eyes of most western media establishments then that's just not on really.

As per the usual, it seems to be middle aged men who feel uncomfortable looking at drag (for whatever reason) getting offended on 'behalf of women' to cover up their own discomfort.

Except, they weren't mocking any religion.