Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

It's simply inevitable.

If this continues at pace, let there be no doubt that this time next year it will be worse still. No guesses needed.

If it continues past next year it will be worse the next year. And so on.

We're seeing people being left with zero alternative already.

In the utter absence of any plan whatsoever, the absence of limits, the absence of political representation, the absence of any solution or appeasement or even bare acknowledgement, what else can happen?

There'll be towns of 200 people being forced to accept 1000 migrants? Why not 5000? Why not give over the phoenix park as a tent encampment?

And if the phoenix park were an encampment, what next for those countless arrivals?

Who in their right mind would have predicted 10 years ago that the country would be so over brimming with extra people that they'd be trying to force 300 migrants into towns of less than 200 irish people? Nobody.

Like that boiling frog analogy, it's necessary to take a step back and look how dire things have become. Then get back to me about the implausibility of a phoenix park encampment.

Again, it is the situation itself that is incitement to violence. I'll gladly listen to anyone's different interpretation of what people are expected to do otherwise.

There is year upon year upon year of proof that politicians are going to do nothing.

They are so willingly dumb, deaf and blind they are today still trying to ram migrants into small villages to the extent of outnumbering irish people 2:1 practically overnight.

It isn't a question of whether politicians have checked out, it's a question of whether they were ever checked in.

You'd be as well off emailing an anteater asking them to stop eating ants. They have unequivocally given us the answer for 10 years straight; their mandate is to themselves and that mandate is to get as many people packed in no matter the consequence. Believe them!

And there is year upon year of proof that the voting base of the country will put the same TDs back In election after election.

It’s by design and clearly there is sweet F.A anyone can do about it. We all should have seen the writing on the wall with the formation of the Public Order Unit. RTE and the 7 million euros worth of media advice the government get do their very best to paint every protester as a vile far right scum bag which stops the vast majority of people from expressing any dissatisfaction.

Climate Change is new to this agenda

And accept there’s nothing we can do to stem the numbers coming in, it hasn’t worked anywhere, if we try the numbers will only increase? IHCR man on RTÉ now discussing their case. Says it legally binding now that the Government has to provide housing.

Gas, am I right I saying we(Irish Citizens) don’t have a similar protection in the constitution?

Arson and worse is simply inevitable in the long term if this continues unabated and with zero consultation or planning. It’s quite literally laying the ground for mass civil unrest and could end up anywhere.

From the article:

"IHREC welcomed the High Court judgment with Head of Legal Michael O'Neill saying…"

…that superyacht is getting closer by the day😎

It was the wonderful Sinéad Gibney that said -

In a sworn statement to the court, the IHREC’s chief commissioner, Sinéad Gibney, said the Commission very carefully considered the matter before deeming it essential to bring this case.

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2023/1221/1423309-human-rights-commission/

Gibney has nailed her colours to the SocDem's mast as she aligns closely with their policies - As above, Gibney deemed it essential to bring the case - She then deemed it essential to feck off from the IHREC a few weeks later and run for a cushy MEP job paying €600k salary over 5 years with massive unvouched expenses also at about €600k for the 5 years - €1.2m over 5 years was just essential to go for wasn't it Sinéad?

I think it's essential not give any sort of a vote to the SocDem's as they'll be as bad as the Greens…just sayin

It was the courts who ordered the government to essentially triple the cash payments to men without accomodation following a different ruling.

Makes you wonder, who is sovereign here. The courts should not have the authority to tell a government to change policy. The people elect a government to make policy, not a courts system to instruct the government.

We must legislate quickly to more narrowly define what a refugee is, and what the government will provide if they are deemed to be genuine. No more rule by judges.

More money for the legal system. Leeches everywhere.

And if many many constituents send emails, no effect you think?

I have no problem with protests and blockades. As long as they don't turn nasty i.e. arson by thugs. Violence and criminal damage loses the entire argument. Plays right into FFG hands.

I am sure the local politicians in these areas are inundated with comms from their people. Everyone else from outside the area could and should help too if they care enough.

Timing of election should not be wasted. Local elections are done.

There are a huge amount of problems to fix.

Then ultimately that's how this must/will end. A new nationalist government is elected which does have the will to legislate against what the NGOs want.

I agree largely.

Except with the "losing the argument" over violence part and it helping the government. As I was saying, if every other effort amounts to nothing, and leaves space for only violence, that's entirely a loss on the government. That's their creation.

Or, another way to frame it. Let's say a blockade is set up, for how long is that blockade to be maintained before most people agree "that's long enough without result, time for something different"? 6 months? 2 years?

At what point is the sheer pig headedness of the government acknowledged as being simply without mandate?

I do agree with people supporting the likes of Dundrum from outside the area. The reason these places are being picked is due to their vulnerability. Specifically in this case, the small number of people.