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Super Rugby Pacific 2024

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,336 ✭✭✭theVersatile




  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    I just read that now.

    That is so tragic. 😣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    Dreadful news about Connor Garden-Bachop

    May he rest in peace



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    On this day 29 years ago Jonah Lomu scored 4 tries against England.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Coverage of the final just started on Sky Sports Action



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  • Insane stat there a few mins ago on the quality of the Blues scrum this year - they’ve won a penalty on 42% of their own put ins (Chiefs at 13% by contrast).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    36kgs difference in pack weights, to the Blues



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    That first try given to the blues was very unfair. you couldn't even see the grounding.





  • Yeah I thought it was extremely marginal, and thought given it was “no try” on the field I didn’t see that being overturned.

    Blues have been the better side so far though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Hasn't really been much of a contest, this. Blues just steamrolling the Chiefs.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Be very interesting if razor brings this blues game plan into the test team, they are incredibly effective



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Largest winning margin in a final



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    Will be interesting to see what Robertson does with the 10 situation with Mo'unga gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Woohoo!!!!! It was finally our year 😁



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Congratulations YR.

    Hopefully the next one won't be 21 more years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    This was the lineup for the 2003 final, Blues vs Crusaders

    Auckland: Doug Howlett, Rico Gear, Mils Muliaina, Sam Tuitupou, Joe Rokocoko, Carlos Spencer, David Gibson, Xavier Rush, Daniel Braid, Justin Collins, Ali Williams, Angus Macdonald, Kees Meeuws, Keven Mealamu, Deacon Manu.
    Replacements: Lee Stensness, Orene Ai'i, Craig McGrath, Mose Tuiaili'i, Brad Mika, Tony Woodcock, Derren Witcombe.

    Canterbury: Leon MacDonald, Marika Vunibaka, Caleb Ralph, Daniel Carter, Joe Maddock, Aaron Mauger, Justin Marshall, Scott Robertson, Richard McCaw, Reuben Thorne, Chris Jack, Brad Thorn, Greg Somerville, Mark Hammett, David Hewett.
    Replacements: Scott Hamilton, Andrew Mehrtens, Ben Hurst, Sam Broomhall, Johnny Leo'o, Greg Feek, Slade McFarland.

    SOme utter legends in both teams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Someone once told me that Rico Gear, sounds like a Brazilian drug dealer, I will never stop laughing at that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    First All Blacks squad named. Scott Barrett named captain.

    5 uncapped players- Cortez Ratima, Billy Proctor, George Bell, Pasikio Tosi, Wallace Sititi





  • They've also named Sam Darry, Ruben Love, David Havili and George Bower as extended squad members to cover for potential injuries.

    The big calls seem to be giving Scott Barrett the captaincy over Ardie Savea, and picked Wallace Sititi at 8 over Hoskins Sututu.



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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    and picked Wallace Sititi at 8 over Hoskins Sututu.

    yah thats a huge call imho. 8 is a stacked position though, with Ardie, sititi, sotutu and Iose all deserving of featuring at test level, this season.

    i would have had both Sititi and Sotutu in the squad, and less crusaders players to be honest. Blackadder is in there on reputation alone, cos its certainly not down to form. 5 starts this season only as hes perma injured.

    How Bell is there is beyond me, even apart from the injury to taukei'aho. Ricky Ricitelli is absolutely more deserving of that spot.

    delight for ratima, though youd guess Riogard would have been there if not injured. Fakatava can feel a little hard done by as well, but very hard to argue the 3 lads in there arent more deserving. Christie has had an excellent season and i hope hes the starting 9.

    Fletcher newell and tamati williams can also feel a bit lucky.

    hows theres only 1 of the blues front row there is beyond me, they blew every single opposition scrum out of the water, winning penalties on something mental like 42% of their scrums.

    the biggest question is whether razor will take on board the Blues very direct style or not.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Don't know if the ABs can play that style against the Boks. I think they'll have to combine the Blues direct physical confrontational style with the Hurricanes and Chiefs backline play.

    I'm not too surprised by the lack of Bluea forwards in the ABs. They're a great pack but individually they're nothing special. Sotutu is the only I'm puzzled by. Ioane ruled himself out by signing to play in Japan. I'd love to see Darry and Ricetelli get a run in the ABs but Ricetelli might be too old for a debut.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Ardie Savea gone to Moana Pasifika till 2027.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    I just checked out the all black squad for the rugby championship.

    Pretty disappointing that Robertson has fallen back on his crusaders players as a crutch. Could this be the start of him showing as a great club coach but not a great test coach?? I know it's really early days yet, but there are certainly better players left out if that squad in place of lesser players and past it players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭ersatz


    I don't know enough to judge his selections but I wasn't particularly impressed with his team/tactics in the England tests. I wasn't expecting something amazing and new as we know these players but it seemed to revert to pre WC ordinariness, and his arse was saved by BB who probably should have started.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Falling back to Sam cane and David havelli is a bad look, plus the number of crusaders players selected who frankly have had a disastrous season, must stick in the craw for other pet teams and players.

    10 players selected from the squad that finished 9th in the table, versus 8 players from each squad who contested the final, shows a unashamed bias to be honest.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    In other SR news, ex Connacht CDO and brother of Tony brown, Cody, joins Highlanders as attach coach for next season.

    Can't help but think this is a bit of a yellow-pack place filling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Agreed but also I'm struggling to think of anyone who really stands out as being hard done by. Apart from Sotutu.

    I do think it's time for the ABs to move on from Havilli, he's a good club player that never really made it at test level. And Cane is a solid test player but probably time to give a younger guy a shot. I understand Jordan coming back in as he is world class.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,915 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Agreed on all.

    Was Christie dropped or injured? If dropped in not sure hotham did enough to replace him. Christie, while never my fav player, has just had the season of his life.

    I can understand Bells inclusion and is there due to injuries but there are better players available in my opinion. He's in there on the back of only 7 professional starts for his club. The argument is probably he's "one for the future" but again, players like riccitelli aren't exactly over the hill at 29.

    Sotutu is obvious, and if have him in there with one of came or Blackadder dropping out. At this stage cane is a poor man's Dalton papallii.

    Narawa is unlucky as well, can't believe a player like him has only one AB cap. Just goes to show the quality ahead of him. Do you really need two dedicated full backs on the squad when you have will Jordan there as well?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    I assumed Christie was dropped for injury because he went off injured in the 2nd test against England (I think) but it turns out he was dropped. Harsh call as he did just have his best SR season. However Hotham was always in the conversation off coming into the ABs. There was a lot of debate over him or Ratima. Any way Roigard is on his way back so they'll all push down a rung when that happens.

    Ricitelli is unlucky. But I think age did count against him. Did enough to earn a call up but he's not better than Aumua or Taylor and Bell is obviously who they are looking at for the future, like you say. Also theres Takei'aho still to come back.

    Agreed that Sotutu should be ahead of Blackadder but he obviously has credit in the back with Robertson. I think Cane is unnecessary as he basically does the same role that Jacobson does and I feel Jacobson is a better player at the moment. Dalton is the definite starting 7 though.

    I'm pretty sure Narawa is in the squad. He would have had more caps but pulled out of the RWC injured before it started.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Didnt get up early for the first game, haven't seen result yet, either, but this NZ/Argentina game is a good watch. Pumas putting it up to NZ, haven't had many chances, but clinical with them.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Gardner is waffling on about a shoulder to head being just a penalty because the upright tackler who turned his shoulder in was "receiving the player". Ridiculous...every tackler is "receiving" the carrier. Said it before and I'll say it again, some of the SH refs have a very relaxed attitude when it comes to player welfare.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Strange sounding call there for the knock on from Ratima...lost control of the ball, but kicked it successfully before it went to ground - Gardner said it was a knock on cause he wasn't in control before kicking it. Never heard that before, seems a ridiculous call.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,466 ✭✭✭✭phog




  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz




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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Pumas up by 8 with a couple minutes left. Big result on here, and well deserved.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Delighted for Dr. Phil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,044 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    It's always been called that way. Seen it plenty of times at all levels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭PMC83


    Gardner called the game really well. TMO begging for a card with that shoulder on head.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Seen it plenty of times not called as a knock on too, though. Inconsistencies drive me a bit bonkers.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    A kick has to be deliberate. Otherwise it is still a case of the ball touching the ground without him regathering control.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Learn something new every day! Dunno how I've gone this long watching rugby and not knowing that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,638 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Rassie flips the team sheet! A multitude of changed. I'm not sure if this team will help. Old Schmidtty might sneak a win this week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭FtD v2


    Still a strong bench, but a pretty weak tight 5. Cannot understand a decision to put both Libbok and Pollard on the bench.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    All Blacks with a serious backlash after last week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Every decent chance seems to be a try. McKenzie clinical from the tee. Argentina scrum getting destroyed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭TheRona


    Bizarre decision there. Upright tackle, but couldn't see any head contact. Yellow card for tackling too hard I guess?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭PMC83


    The second the balls start sticking for SA they could be out of sight. Wallabies look pretty shocking, bad attack



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Yeah, they were clinical with their chances and were super disruptive . Pumas never really got momentum going.

    SA pretty comprehensive winners in the second game, but if Joe can get a bit more discipline out of the Aussie players, they'll be much better. Some green shoots there, I think, but plenty to do rebuilding from where Jones left them.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,142 ✭✭✭fitz


    Oof, SA lucky to be awarded that try against NZ...Bongi clearly loses control before grounding.



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