Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

I'm also assuming it doesn't kill him, which TBF is not at all sure.

Getting back on topic, I think this says it all:

It is very concerning!

Currently watching the gymnastics and the women here are unreal - we are fighters, hard as nails at times, able to compete - but men are stronger, faster, punch harder and so competition has to be separated by sex.

Technically this seems to have happened due to a bureaucracy mess-up. The IBA which was meant to run Olympic boxing had tested and disqualified the two athletes but the IBA itself was then removed from managing the event (qualifying, refereeing, rules) due to concerns with how the IBA was run (related to russian influence) so the IOC stepped in and defaulted to the rules from previous Olympics which allowed them to compete (possibly as they couldn't get all the correct procedures in place in a short amount of time).

The IOC does not do well at taking criticism (mostly to protect their cronyism) so double down in these cases.

How do you know she has male reproductive organs?

you’d have to wonder do they do it for the banter.

It would have to be a personal vendetta against an Algerian and a Taiwanese boxer, both of whom do actually look like men. Kind of a weird coincidence if so.

No I think it's more likely that, while the IBA is undoubtedly corrupt - as is the IOC, TBF - it is unrelated to the gender issue, and the IBA, like most, but by no means all, governing bodies were in the process of repairing the disastrous mistake the IOC made a few years ago when it ditched gender tests (against the wishes of something like 82% of female athletes asked) allowing anyone who identified as female to participate in the female category of their sport.

As a side effect, this simultaneously removed the thorny issue of how sports bodies should consider DSD/intersex athletes, but it was actually done principally to placate the trans lobby.

Only of course now that the IBA is no longer accredited by the IOC, there is no world governing body to take the responsibility that the IOC had "bravely" delegated to each sports governing body to make these decisions, so that for boxing, the IOC took no decision at all, and just stuck with the status quo of Tokyo.

LOL that probably did concentrate the minds of the relevant authorities alright. If it had been a Russian boxer with a DSD there would probably have been no question of making them take a sex test. I would say women should count themselves lucky except that in the end it didn't have any effect for the Olympics.

Doing the right thing for (perhaps) the wrong reasons. A bit like a stopped clock being right twice a day I suppose.

It's not hard; if you have a Y chromosome you don't compete in womens sports.

The stink from this is going to be worse than that from the turds the triathletes were bumping into in the Seine.

I fully agree JK Rowling, PM of Italy, Giorgia Meloni :

British author J.K. Rowling, who has become an outspoken figure on the definition of what it is to be a woman, said Carini's dreams had been shattered by unjust rules."A young female boxer has just had everything she’s worked and trained for snatched away because you allowed a male to get in the ring with her," Rowling wrote on X."#Paris2024 will be forever tarnished by this brutal injustice," she added.

“From my point of view, this was not an equal competition,” Meloni

told reporters Thursday

. “I think that athletes who have male genetic characteristics should not participate in women’s competitions. Not because we want to discriminate against anyone, but to protect the rights of female athletes to compete on equal terms.”

And German female boxer Regina Halmich:

Regina Halmich on transgender boxers at the Olympics: "Stop this bullshit"

I see RTE News played the first part of this clip this evening, but not the part referred to below, which has been widely ridiculed online.

The IOC released a statement condemning the lack of due process around the IBA decision to ban the two boxers. But, here they are "hoping we are all agreed" that no sex testing is brought back. Surely, the question should be seriously considered at least?

Because of their beard? Oh wait...

Ah right. The doctors just completely missed the fact she had a penis when she was born. Sure, that happens all the time.

Kellie Harrington said no such thing. Harrington has fought and beaten Khelif.

I think you're missing the fact that relative to body size, little boys' genitals are much, much smaller than those of adult men. Also (and this is something you may genuinely not know) little girls are quite often born with shockingly large clitorises, due to the effects of the mother's hormones.

So - and I'm speaking generally here, not speculating that this is what happened with Imane Khelif - it's quite possible to envisage a case where a newborn boy with a micro penis could be taken for a girl with a swollen clitoris. Especially in a country with substandard medical care like Algeria.

Not to mention that I've seen claims that African talent scouts go out looking for children and young people with DSDs. Male ones, of course.

I don't know why you expect me to be an expert in DSDs, I'm just pointing out a few facts about babies, but am no specialist in DSDs. A little googling tells me that in the past, and in underdeveloped countries still, DSDs were generally picked up at puberty.

I can't see what else that picture could be showing though. It's certainly not possible for that to be a woman's genitals. Or are you suggesting the photo was photoshopped?

Male boxers' genitalia are often visible, and are a lot bigger than what we see there:

I think the claim that Khelif was snapped with a visible erection is quite plausible. That's how it looks to me.