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Electric Picnic 2024 **No Ticket Sales / Requests** - Waiting in line, terrible time, over familiar

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    announcing acts morning of ATN is tame compared to tricks that prokoters have carried out here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    Lads, I know the EP lineup is quite poor and about the budget differences but is it just me that thinks that the ATN lineup is crap?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    Full agreement. It's petty bordering on twatty. But what do you expect from this shower?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭LowOdour


    Its just you! Throw out some realistic names that you think would be good on a line up?
    Its all personal really, but I could name a few acts at ATN that would improve this years EP line up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Dano650


    Have a feeling Electric Picnic will be gone in a few years just like the Oxygen Festival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    Oh yeah, it's all personal taste but going through the line up:

    There's very little that would interest me there. If that was the EP lineup I'd be disgusted. Not that I'm happy with the EP lineup, that's very poor as well. But there's more for me than ATN anyway. It's all opinion though, as you say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Fatfrog


    Subjective I guess!

    ATN may not have heavy hitting very expensive top acts (Prodigy exc.) , but it’s got great depth in the sub acts (For me!)

    EP is twice the capacity netting around 8m more revenue, has 10x more commercial deals with partners, will get 1M more revenue vs ATN with early entry and takes a hefty cut from the traders not to mention the bars! Will also get buying power by sharing some of the expenses with UK sister festivals, things like main stage, fencing, security etc.

    They have switched away from the ATN model and heavily focused on the top tier and (for me) have forgotten sub tier.

    It’s hard to believe both festivals are almost competing in the same space.

    (Doing proper fcuk all in work this week!!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    I see what you're saying but I honestly have zero interest in the budgets of both or how much either will make. I'm just going on the lineup. And for me, both lineups are pretty poor. I didn't go but Forest Fest was far superior to both! Although smaller obviously.



  • Registered Users Posts: 971 ✭✭✭crl84


    Plenty of other acts have been added since that poster. Most notably Prodigy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 971 ✭✭✭crl84


    Subjectivity indeed.

    Forest Fest to me was a load of washed up 80s acts, several of whom most people would have thought broke up years ago, and a load of Irish acts that would play at every tiny local village "festival" held on a gaa pitch up and down the country. Looks like a lineup booked by someone who stopped listening to music in 2005 and whose idea of adventurous is Glasvegas.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭fourmations


    i've resisted the negativity so far but just looked at the lineup again

    I think Noah Kahan as a headliner just says it all, its the most pathetic headliner ever, the guy has one song (that i hate) he's a nobody! and don't get me started on Gerry, the guy got famous off a bleeped word in a song, grim!! its the undercard thats thats the issue, it wasnt that long ago i had decisions to make and agonizing over the clashfinder, no such worries this year! Still hoping for Charli!!

    anyway, ill have a great laugh with my mates, that's a given that the lineup cant p*ss on!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭rubick


    I know you're saying you aren't interested in budgets, but believe me you notice when there hasn't been much spent on infrastructure/campsites (Forest Fest).

    From my perspective the ATN line-up is the best in the country this year, but I tend to prefer electronica for the most part. The difference is that with ATN there are options to go and see either for me this year at any time - that's something EP simply doesn't have because of this horsesh*t and frankly baffling policy of booking 20+ emoting male singer-songwriters. And before anyone says "But the Coke Stage…!", away and take your face for a sh*te.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    Ah it looks like it was a throwback alright but ATN has Nathasa Bedingfield, The Prodigy, Róisín Murphy so you could probably call it a load of washed up 90's acts. Nothing very adventurous either. But yes, subjectivity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    Oh ok, I heard Forest Fest was basic enough.

    And I agree, I'll be avoiding the male whinger-writers like the plague.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Think we will get a few more surprises (positive thinking). Wonder will the Saw Doctors be one of the surprise acts?

    Packed tent last year, good fit with the Waterboys and Wolfe Tones, on tour but not doing anything else the Saturday or Sunday.



  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭glennponder


    On the ATN v EP v FF debate

    I'm with musicrules in that I would struggle with a lot of the acts on the ATN line up.

    Forest fest would probably be a laugh but it's on a GAA pitch and I can't get past that point.

    EP line up is mostly disappointing yes but I don't think it gets enough credit for the quality of the site design and its overall layout and variety of stages/areas on offer....budgets aside there's so much more to see and do at ep than there is forest fest



  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭mindlet


    Look no matter what headliners in EP, you will always be guaranteed a great time in Salty Dog and Fishtown



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,911 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Apologies but it’s me as well. After the initial EP lineup i considered getting an ATN ticket but the lineup does very little for me. I’m sure they’ll all have a blast there but there’s less than a dozen acts I’d want to see. For all its faults I’m approaching thirty at EP. Tis all subjective.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭fourmations


    about a million ads for EP on Today Fm today all of a sudden, dont get the logic, why they spending money on advertising at this stage of a sold out event, is it the Today FM link? drumming up interest for next years registration? educate me!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Yeah I'd say it's pushing big for the presale for next year, FOMO is a big selling point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,911 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    ATN spoiler. EP last acts soon to be announced. Tickets for 2025 on sale shortly, possibly next week before ATN start flogging their early birds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭LowOdour


    Ah yeah, was bit a little tounge in cheek about it. There is no wow band on the ATN lineip for me (most acrs ll see will be for 2nd,3rd etc time) but enough to keep me pretty entertained.

    Ive no doubt EP will give me a pretty full weekend also



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,865 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Forest fest shouldnt be even breathed in the same realm as EP or ATN, or even BTP to be fair.

    its a <5000 capacity festival on a couple of GAA pitches. It is absolutely curated to a target audience, and is successful for this. Both last year and this year were very obviously targeted at the 35-65 age bracket, wanting to relive some of their 80s and 90's musical influences. its not targeted to "catch all" to the degree Ep and ATN have to to sell capacity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    did the Ryan tubridy scandal not inform you about barter accounts, today fm give festival republic blocks of adverts in exchange for today fm trading them at a discount for electric picnic tickets for on air competitions.
    festival republic get hours of direct and indirect advertising for essentially no cost and it helps build up hype as number 1 summer festival.



  • Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Dutchy


    Working in the industry and these ads have nothing to to do with the London based barter agencies (be it Astus, Active or Miroma). These are good old fashioned direct contra agreements with the festival promoter



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Joekers


    Festivals in Ireland are on the road to extinction due to greedy promoters and the Irish people's willingness to pay anything but still give out about it at the same time.

    There was a time.. The gigs in Anne's Park, Fairview Park, Trinity etc they were artists who would have been on a festival line up.

    For whatever reason now they are broken up and we are paying 30, 40, 50.. But we still pay it..

    Promoters have copped on and we are suffering for it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭Dreamweapon


    Between EP, ATN and BTP this year i'd still only manage an ok festival lineup. Enough to keep me occupied but nothing to be excited about. Slim pickings all round.

    Big on the all mouth and trousers scene



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    as reiterated before the festivals in ireland aren’t generating obscene profits. Electric picnic and ATN lost millions upon millions in its first few years. Electric picnic probably generates between €20m -€30m and its profit ratio is in the 5-10% range even with every possible sponsorship going. A decent return but they aren’t making out like bandits.
    A lot of those artists doing summer shows were specifically touring headline shows like air and manics/suede so it’s not like they would have been an option or they played festivals here last summer so that rules them out for next or they are touring elsewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭Dreamweapon


    It's a poor reflection if they're the biggest selling points of the festival though.

    Big on the all mouth and trousers scene



  • Registered Users Posts: 359 ✭✭Davysulls86


    But its all subjective.

    We're getting older. We used to be with it. Now what we're with isn't it, and what's it is weird and scary.

    The fact remains is Ireland is a small market in the scheme of things. The country has the population of a large city and there is a huge number of concerts on every year here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Loyalty registration for 2025(29 Aug-31 Aug) is now open. No great surprise, but some relief all the same to know we are going back to the original weekend.

    https://www.electricpicnic.ie/loyalty/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Gary_dunne




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,647 ✭✭✭Mollyb60


    I'm in the same position. No one wants the campervan ticket at all. Very frustrating.



  • Registered Users Posts: 46 Kennytheboy


    Hopefully there might be more interest if the next announcement is any good. Not holding my breath though. Crazy difference from previous years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭dav09


    I think maybe women in their early 20's might enjoy the main bulk of the lineup, Noah, Gerry, Kodaline, Teddy Swims, Tom Gernnan, Raye and Kylie is also on a big re-emergence, along with pleasing some of the older crowds. Calvin Harris even though very poor live and miles passed it will be enjoyed by some.

    For me overall across the board it's fairly poor still, very little stand out bookings on many stages. I'm up to 15 on the list now, which is about half of what it usually is, mostly consisting of Irish acts that've I've seen many times before. I'm hoping maybe there might be another 5 that I like to be added and might find one or two more going through playlists to make it worth going, and also enjoy wandering Croi, Trenchdown, SD area, etc and always find a few more there randomly throughout. Another thing is repeat bookings, there's one act playing 5 times I believe (multiple alias') and a good few more booked 2 or 3 times, I know that's usually the case but it seems excessive this year. If you're mid twenties and up and not into mediocre pop music or smaller Irish artists which is surely a big bulk of the demographic I can't see how it's very appealing especially in contrast to 3 or 4 festivals ago. Am hopeful tomorrow's (expected) announcement is generous.

    Another act I haven't seen mentioned is Artemas. I'm not really into but surely by the logic by some people here he should be promoted to headliner on the final poster from tier 4 going off radio plays/36mn monthly Spofity steams having blown up in the past few months? Although hasn't played here before I believe.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭boomdocker


    There were issues last year with over capacity for some reason

    Late comers in campers and caravans ended up in one of the car parks if I recall.

    I measured it on mapping software I use for work - previous camper area was ~20 acres, this years is almost 100 😯 - so in theory 5 times the amount of camper tickets?

    On the plus side, it's much closer to the main arena

    Also the family camper area (which I have been in) has been moved and is bit smaller than previous years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Fatfrog


    It’s a good change, win win for everyone.

    Bring the campers closer to the arena as those punters make the journey several times per day, this also means you can have a designated road in for campers.

    Then use the old camper field as a car park, this brings thousands of cars closer to the campsites, especially for Hendrix and everything west, it was bad enough in the old days when you could cut through the forest for Hendrix, but for the last few years this short cut has been closed off and they make you walk right around the forest.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭dav09


    The past two years the general camping situation has been fairly dreadful if you're arriving early Friday eve, last year we got somewhat lucky they opened an overflow 'Ginsberg' campsite since every campsite was packed but looks like that's removed this year now. The year before was even worse since there was no room people were camping in the fire/health and safety pathways, feels like the attendance numbers have grown but the space for camping hasn't as much as it should comparatively, hope that's different this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,911 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    If ‘with it’ is Gerry Cinnamon, Kodaline and Noah Kahan then that test has been spectacularly failed in this parish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    Think i have my final list if there's no clashes. No absolutely must sees either if I miss any to be honest. Kylie, Gerry, Kasabian, Waterboys, Wolfe Tones, Peggy Gou, Faithless, Kneecap, Teskey Bros, Newdad, the Scratch, Thee Sacred Souls, Post Punk Podge, the pale, fangclub, villagers, Bambie thug, Loreen, the Nilzs, the year grunge broke, melts, stranglers, Sophie Ellis Bextor, putius pilot and the nail drivers, TCM, CMAT. Again plenty of them I can take or leave



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 suec8451


    If anyone has a family ticket that they are not using (as in not going to the family campsite) would you please consider swapping for a general ticket as i could only get 1 family ticket and im bringing my kids so would really like to go to the family campsite? Would transfer through ticketmaster transfer.. :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Mucker46


    If like radiohead add karma police on Survivor stage Sunday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭dav09


    EP app on android seems to be live now with most artists added and seems to be being updated still, it's getting close now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭Dreamweapon


    That's piss poor really isn't it? No reflection on your taste but that this is the best you can eke out.

    Big on the all mouth and trousers scene



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    Yeah. If this weren't on there's only two or three I would listen to with any regularity. Will make the most anyway



  • Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭rockterrain


    100%. Many of these acts appear in festivals in other countries. The public has shown to accept mediocrity in our festival line-ups here and the promoters have been lapping this up booking in these festival acts as standalone gigs. Looked to have backfired a bit this year however with many summer gigs not selling out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    nearly all those acts who played fairview, st Anne’s, trinity, iveagh etc in recent years have played either EP, FF or ATN here in the last few years. Maybe a handful haven’t and said before it’s the bands/agent decision as to play festivals or headline shows in the summer here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,341 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Just had a look at it there now, I'd say there's a lot more acts to be added. Seems to be nobody for Terminus besides Hannah Laing and she might not even be in there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭Mucker46


    12 acts on poster for terminus. Not all acts on app yet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭patch


    I'm liking this talk of additional caravan space nearer the arena and will be interested in hearing feedback on how it goes. Might be very cost affective vs our usual pink moon.



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