NEW 2022 Assistant Principal Competition - Open and Interdepartmental

Hi, anyone receive an update from PAS on the Open Panel for batch 4.2?

Thanks.

Hi @PremierSky I received this update on Monday re open Dublin - "We have just commenced the pre-employment checks of the Open candidates in batch 4.1"

@civilservant01 sorry to hear that! You can email for feedback but from past experience it is quite vague! No harm to ask for it anyways! 😊

To those with an offer on batch 4.3, I asked PAS and they said there are approx 20 people still to be placed from batch 4.1, & 4.2 . I am on OOM for batch 4.3 but I am not to hopefully! I know the batch finishes in October 2024 but the next competition is going to take a while to get people so will they draw from 4.3 until the new one is up and running?

I genuinely think they wouldn't be establishing panels if vacancies weren't projected. They've already committed to carrying out pre-employment checks for Interdepartmental batch 4.3 'in the coming weeks' (which admittedly could amount to quite a lot of weeks!), so I can't see them not doing so for the Open batch 4.3 at some stage. I think there's more chance of them extending the expiry date.

Just to note that PAS did recently extend the current PO panel from the 2022 competition until the end of this year so it is a possibility that the same will happen for this panel!

I would be surprised if they called another batch in this competition. I would think that between 4.1 and 4.3 would be enough until the next competition is up an running.

Its just a bad time of the year. I can see everything grinding to a halt from now until September. Hopefully I’m wrong.

Yes, if the competition expires then order of merit no longer matters as the panel ceases. There is no option to transfer across to another panel, etc after that date. Instead you would need to apply for the new competition & complete the entire process again including strategic analysis exercise & interview. I believe anyone who is in the process of providing clearance documentation at the time the comp expires would be offered a position but anyone still waiting on the panel would not.

Does anyone know if the majority of new AP jobs being offered are full time in the office in Dublin? I have heard there seems to be quite a few refusals (but basing this on info from one person in my office)

I have heard reports of people turning down transfers either via mobility or secondment as it required being in the office full time.

A lot will depend on the role and the departments attitude.

Thanks Foxy, is 4.3 the most recent batch?

Thanks Foxy. That is amazing! Congrats to everyone seeking work in Dublin. A friend is in that batch and I am optimistic for them. I turned down a job in Dublin many months ago and sit waiting on a regional panel. I got the good news last October and after moving up 40 spots for Dublin and a few spots on that regional panel, it STOPPED moving completely in November. I pm'd FlexB recently with suggestions to try and break the log jam. Last year I naively hoped they didn't offer me a job before Christmas as my hols were set. Now I fear the panel expiring. Hope FB gets an offer this summer. Pity to have to start all over again.

I hear DSP are full time on site for new staff. I am 3 days wfh 2 days in the office in my new AP role.

Currently based in DSP and it’s the first I heard of this. I know of one AP who started and he was expected to be in the office full time for the first few weeks but after a while he was allowed to work from home 3 days a week.

I have heard of people turning mobility offers in various departments because they were expected to be in the office full time. It all depends on the role, the office and what you PO is willing to allow.

Hi folks,

I got in touch with PAS today, inquiring specifically about Interdepartmental Batch 4.3, and received this response:

"Clearance has just commenced on Batch 4.3 with only one candidate in clearance so far."

Just by way of update and FYI.

Thanks PWDUB,

I just put in a supplementary query on the Open panel, so they'll likely give me that very same info.

Latest from PAS, in response to me asking about the Open panel batches:

"The only candidate in Clearance is number 1 on both panels."

Don't think I'm much the wiser, other than only one person from Batch 4.3 as a whole is in clearance.

Actually, come to think of it, I finished 6th in both Open and Interdepartmental 4.3, which means that whoever is first in one is first in the other. So just the one individual from 4.3 either way.

I agree it's excessively slow in any case.

There are approx 25 on batch 4.3

Interesting that early last week 2 were in clearance for 4.3 when I emailed so either the person replying was giving wrong info or someone decided they did not want to be considered anymore..

There isn't a whole lot you can do to prepare. But saying that, I would highly recommend reading both this thread and the one from 2020 lots of good advice on what to expect and advice on how to approach the different stages.

Hi - received an update today that there are only 8 ahead of me now for InterD Dublin - I placed 16 so they are moving through this one at a good pace!

4.3 InterD - there are 30 ahead of me on the open as of today also for anyone who is interested in the open only.