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Game News 2.0

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭OptimusTractor


    It's a good game but it's not groundbreaking as some would claim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭McFly85


    HiFi rush was a perfect example of how good GamePass could be. The type of game nobody will sign up for Gamepass for by itself but that they’re delighted they have access to as part of it.

    I thought it was a really good sign that MS was trying to build a varied service that would include a lot of non traditional games - things that would be considered risky if they had to rely on sales, but would be ideal as a small part of a big offering. So it was disappointing to see that they didn’t really see it that way, and still somewhat expect all games to move the needle more than they probably should be expected to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,322 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Yeah that's the thing, it wasn't groundbreaking or anything, but it was a surprise Gamepass drop, something pretty fresh and unlike other stuff MS do, and most who played it absolutely loved it. And then MS pretty much said that it was a success by all metrics. The game was as successful as a game like that could possibly be.

    So obviously they closed the studio.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I don’t think it was ‘groundbreaking’ per se (indeed, having something of a PS2 / Dreamcast throwback spirit was part of its appeal), but it was amazingly crafted within its form factor. Just an interesting idea (combining two genres) perfectly executed. It’s up there with Bayonetta for me as one of the great 3D combat games, and a deeply satisfying and polished rhythm game on top - combined, that creates a wonderfully immersive and multi-layered game. A rare modern 10/10 instant classic for me, thanks to the presentational confidence and surprising depth to the combat revealed in its harder difficulties. It deserved all the acclaim it got, and remains one of the games of the decade so far for me.

    Doesn’t matter to me whether it was a blockbuster hit or not (though, again, Microsoft said it surpassed expectations, and the awards / acclaim speak for themselves). What it represented for GamePass was much more encouraging - using a subscription model to support smaller, more nice games that may not have had the support otherwise. Microsoft blew all that goodwill in one swoop when they shut the studio.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,527 ✭✭✭marcbrophy


    They closed the studio, not because it had made a successful game, but because they didn't want to green-light a sequel and then the studio had nothing in development for them.

    It's a subtle difference, the first wording points to MS being idiots, the second to them being fiscally sound and just watching the balance sheets.

    The good news is, that there's no reason that HR2 couldn't be a GP game now under the new owners, so it might do pretty good.

    I agree though that the game is somewhat over-hyped.

    I could only play a level or two, before putting the controller down.

    I wanted to love it, cos everyone else seemed to, but I just can't play rhythm games properly, my mind isn't built for it, so it was very hard for me.

    I was enjoying the story, but I couldn't play the game.

    I understand this is my fault, but I'm sure I'm not the only one in the same position.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Personally, if Microsoft asked for Hi Fi Rush 2 for Game Pass, I’d hope Tango 2.0 would tell them to get in the f***ing sea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,212 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Why? Business is business and bills don't pay themselves.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    1. Because Microsoft closed the studio
    2. Because the whole sorry affair proves that dumping a game on GamePass maybe isn’t a sustainable approach for many games, let alone the most profitable. Give it a proper multi-format release with plenty of marketing - much healthier and more sustainable release plan IMO, without devaluing it by giving it away for ‘free’.

    Pay the bills as needed. But better ways to do that than GamePass these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,212 ✭✭✭Cordell


    1. The past is in the past
    2. If the deal makes sense financially everyone wins, including us who get to play the game for cheap.

    There is nothing to win from burning bridges with Microsoft.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I’d argue Microsoft already pretty definitively torched that bridge, so **** ‘em.

    Don’t think there’d be any benefit in ruling out an Xbox release or anything. Just think there’s a much better chance for the game to thrive with a proper, non-subscription-based multiplatform release, especially now that it has a profile and fans.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,928 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Some good gaming news:

    This game was looking like it would stay in Japan. Apparently it's fantastic and a spiritual successor to the excellent Konami Goemon games and made most of the original Goemon team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Shadows of Doubt launching on PS, XBOX and leaving early access on PC on 26th September.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Weird one here. Valve have the worst kept secret in gaming at the moment - their hero shooter Deadlock. This unannounced game has had more than 15,000 concurrent players in recent days due to an open, public invite system they have among their early players - again, despite never having officially acknowledged the game’s existence.

    A Verge writer got an invite with no formal NDA (just a dismissible pop up requesting secrecy) and wrote about the game. Now the writer and his colleagues are getting attacked online for writing the article. They’ve also been banned from matchmaking by Valve.

    Have to say I’m very with the journalists here. It’s a bit silly for there to be a ‘secret game’ of that scale out there on a ‘keep quiet’ honour system, and it’s a reporter’s job to report on what they know. A pop up is not an NDA so I think they’re perfectly within their rights to have published this article, and it’s unfair they’re getting abuse for it. Don’t think Valve need defending here - they can take their marketing plans being disrupted.

    Warren didn’t write the article but a lot of the negative feedback seems to be centred around his tweet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,327 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I'm with Valve here. While not illegal or breaking any terms, it's the perfect example of why things get ruined by people who just HAVE to be the first to report. Even if it was only a popup, it's still a crappy thing to do imo. You can bet they won't be invited again. Even if the whole world already knows, they just had to get their bit out before anyone else.

    They're like the people who are invited to weddings where the bride and groom ask to not upload photos to social media until they have, but there's always one or two who do anyway...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,541 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    While he's not wrong that there was nothing illegal or contractually binding about what he did, its inordinately shítty behaviour to act the smart arse and ignore the request. Putting it back on Valve that it was essentially their fault that he could get around it by pressing the escape button is pathetic. If you're explaining, you're losing.

    I'm with Valve here. It's shítty and disrespectful behaviour to get clicks and he knows he was in the wrong (by even referencing it). Fúck that guy. 15,000 other people were playing it and played by the rules, why should he be any different?

    A pop up is not an NDA so I think they’re perfectly within their rights to have published this article, and it’s unfair they’re getting abuse for it.

    The fact that it wasn't a formal NDA is not really relevant. It was still ethically and morally wrong.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The thing is though, there has been lots of leaks about this game beforehand. You can Youtube 'Deadlock gameplay' and find clips going back months. I was reading articles about its various systems weeks ago, and there was no backlash or controversy over that.

    I think it's an unreasonable expectation that there's a game being played by that many people - 22,000 concurrents as I type! - with a generous public invite system but video game reporters with access to the game are expected to just be quiet about it and pretend it doesn't exist. A reporter’s job is to break stories, not just follow a company’s marketing plan to the letter.

    If it was a smaller pool of players, totally get the need for hush-hush and respecting any informal requests to not share details. But when you have nearly as many concurrent players as Helldivers 2, then frankly all bets are off. It's not the reporter's fault that Valve are being extremely weird and secretive about the rollout of the game tens of thousands of people are playing but they haven't even announced yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭MikeRyan87


    Forza Horizon 5 or Starfield heavily rumoured to be announced for PS5 next week.

    I wouldn't buy Starfield but would happily to play FH5 again. What a great open world racer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,502 ✭✭✭recyclops


    Absolute no brainer, with the differences between consoles being so minimal with the exceptions of switch and costs of games being so pricey its silly its not the norm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,132 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    The Plucky Squire launches September 17th



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    The fact that it wasn't a formal NDA is not really relevant. It was still ethically and morally wrong.

    Ah, come on… it was a fluff piece about an upcoming game. Have a bit perspective, lads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,541 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,541 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    I have plenty of perspective. I'm not saying it's the worst thing in the world but it's a fair observation.

    If someone invites you to play their game and asks you not to talk about it, and you do, that's inherently a bit of shïtty and arrogant thing to decide that the request doesn't apply to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Broken Sword remaster (I thought there already was one) releasing in September, now you have to deal with the goat in 4K.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,132 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    This was up on kickstarter for a while. I didn't back it in the end but have to say I'll probably buy this, something about this game always appeals to me. Probably because I didn't get as stuck in it as I did with the likes of Monkey Island or Discworld :D



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,324 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I like playing adventure games but playing them these days just feels so slow. Click a random place on the screen, character walks slowly over, looks and says there's nothing there or says what is there. Takes so long to get through. So be good if they did up those parts somehow.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,928 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I played through the rerelease recently and broken sword is a lot fairer. It kind of traps you in small areas so you can't really wander off and waste time. The only issue are the bits they added with the French girl with adds nothing to the game. They are also quite jarring because sound is much higher quality so it's juxtaposed to the original sound quality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Neo Berlin 2087….. I'm a bit confused by this. It looks great….and awful at the same time. Looks like an AI was told to make a Cyberpunk FPS but have Max Payne slow mo dives and David Cage dodgy writing and acting. This is a gameplay demo and I still don't know what the gameplay will actually look like. Why all the **** blur!



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    Was the female character modelled on Daisy Duck?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Stephen Totilo reports around half (50 or so staff) of the existing Tango Gameworks team is carrying over to the new entity.

    https://www.gamefile.news/p/animal-well-interview-billy-basso

    While you'd like that to be larger (allowing for those who've found new work or opportunities in the meantime), it still is encouraging that a fair chunk of the team will be working on what comes next - presumably Hi-Fi Rush 2.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    The spirit of the janky c-tier 360-era shooter looks to be alive and well with that one.

    The graphics have that iffy tech demo / asset store look to them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    An indie developer explaining why they've given up on porting to the xBox.

    https://x.com/haakgame/status/1824734589719302501



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,327 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    It seems a bit mad that they couldn't even finish registering their account for 14 months. And I've no doubt there'll be a few indie devs to come out and say how it was a painless, quick and easy process for them. And I've learned my lesson to not believe anything immediately, as the articles I've read about it just regurgitate what HAAK have said. Seems strange that a simple registration issue would take this long to be sorted before one side gave up. There's probably more to it. Not a good look for MS if true though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    Seen a post from them going back to February where they were talking about trying to get an xBox port sorted but having no luck. They've obviously given up completely at this point.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,928 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Apparently no western devs are having any issues. This is apparently a Chinese developer issue and not following the procedure to go through a licensed sub publisher (probably government owned). Pretty sure this is just the developer having a rant for not following procedure. Sony might have some easier way around it. With the growth of Chinese indies it's probably something MS would want to sort out.

    Sony and Nintendo might have a work around in place with the Chinese government. I mean it's a pretty simple process to sign up as a developer for Xbox.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭sniper_samurai


    Looks like Bully is getting a re-release on modern platforms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,322 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    If it's anything like the GTA Trilogy remaster, no the f*ck thanks.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,928 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Hopefully it's treated a lot better. I mean an up resed port of the 360 version would be ideal. I wonder if it will go by the bully name in Europe this time.

    It's far and away my favourite rockstar game and up there with rdr and warrior as the games from rockstar I'd call truly great.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,768 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    With Sonic a multi-film commercial success and a Yakuza series on the way, the next Sega adaptation is based on the hugely popular… erm… Eternal Champions?

    This kind of thing makes me wonder if Hollywood executives actually use a random number generator and Wikipedia to pick what they want to adapt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,322 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I played it when it first came out but never finished it. Not even fully sure why, I think maybe the day-night cycle just bugged me at the time, with barely having enough time to explore the town before having to get back to the dorm etc.

    Played it again maybe 3-4 years ago and got through it fairly quickly. I agree it's a fantastic game. That said, if it was re-released now even just upscaled or some quality-of-life features, I'm not sure if I'd be bothered. I'd probably be more inclined to pick up the RDR1 remaster if I see it for a decent price.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    The RDR 1 remaster was brilliant, my favorite playthrough of that game, got through it much quicker than i thought it would, the Bonny missions didn't feel like as much of a slog and it was a pure joy to go of and do all the little ambience challenges. Highly recommend it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,322 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I was definitely interested when it was announced, but as much of an eejit as I am for buying games full price and never or rarely playing them, I just couldn't bring myself to buy it when it released. I know it wasn't done the same way the GTA Trilogy was done, but I feel like Rockstar owe me money for that one, so I'm waiting until I see it for a decent price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,050 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,541 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Yeah I felt very similar with the RDR1 remaster. It was brilliant. Compared to RDR2, the missions were much more accessible and you could pick up the game for an hour and get through so much. Missions generally didn't take that long which was refreshing. It was felt like an arcade version (of sorts) of Red Dead Redemption Arcade versus RDR2s simulation version.

    I'd love if Rockstar gave Bully the same treatment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Is their something I'm missing about the wagons in RDR2 ? 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,050 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,911 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    As someone who somehow managed to get a refund for GTA Trilogy from Sony after almost completing GTA 3, I fully get that. I got RDR 1 in Smyths for I think 35 on sale and then sold to CEX for 30 or something like that so that definitely sweetened the pot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    I hold on to physical games I've liked. Keep thinking I'll replay them, but apart for 1 or 2 I never do. Maybe the kids will play them one day. But it certainly is a sweet deal when you can play a game for a few quid with a CEX trade in. Certainly if their is going to be a remaster/remake in a few years time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,327 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Unless it's a ground up remake, I'm not gonna fund the Rockstar low effort re-releases. For such a massive and financially successful company, they treat us like crap with low effort ports instead of the full effort they deserve to get. We should be getting RE Remakes level of quality from the Rockstar back catalogue but all we're getting is enough effort to call it "new" and then the sheeple fans fawn over it and buy it in the millions, forever ensuring that Rockstar will continue to give low effort re-releases. RDR1 remake should have been done in the RDR2 engine. Same with the GTA Trilogy. Fup Rockstar.



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