Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

You'll have a hard time finding me praising Putin but sure whatever fantasy you and the other boys are having. I'm not arsed reading Peggy's wall of texts nor have I thanked any racist against Palestinan posts. But you do you!

I know they get upset if I don't visit often and ye really need to get your personal jibes in after all.

I didn't say you did. I was speaking of others. I don't have any illusions/ fantasies about your double standards in denying war crimes committed by Israel, it's openly on display with your constant deflections and complaining about piles on against Israel. The fact you don't praise Putin but stay silent about Nethanyu is telling. No wonder Nethanyu has expressed admiration for Putin- two peas in a pod!

Im pro Israel so the last thing it should do is agree to ceasefires etc or let the likes of hamas regroup so that Israel faces the same problems down the road but at the same time Israel has to remember its population and economy is small enough and its already ~9months into a conflict, I see a risk of Israel overextending itsself militarily or risk its Iron Dome systems being exhausted?

You would think Israel would finish with the conflict in Gaza before getting involved in another conflict. 9 months into their conflict in Gaza and they don't seem close to destroying Hamas yet some posters here think that they will defeat Hezbollah and Iran soon enough. It's obvious they are killing alot of people in Gaza but perhaps they are not killing the right people to actually win the conflict?

Perhaps the Israeli population will realise soon that Netanyahu's policies are not going secure any lasting peace.

I'm not sure why they would bother. Cheaper to finance Hamas or whoever their successor is and Hezbollah and every few years make life difficult for the Israelis. Neither Israel or Iran have any strategy that will lead to victory.

Would you agree with the stance of many Israelis that all Palestinians need to be wiped out?

That's the logical and inevitable conclusion of perpetuating a system of apartheid, murder, theft, and oppression.

the vast majority of israelis are not advocating wipe out all palestinians - most arabs are advocating the opposite however

Let's hope they do.

As you say the Israeli right don't want peace. Let's say Hamas are somehow defeated and a moderate opposition governs Gaza that would be Bibi and his friends worse nightmare. We know this because Bibi admitted it to colleagues that the best way to weaken the PA and stall a two state solution was allowing the money to come in from Qatar. Bibi would love if the Iranians fell into his trap and a wider war broke out that dragged in the Americans. Let's hope they don't give him what he wants.

Even his own negotiators have said that he was setting out terms for a peace deal to the current war that made their job is impossible.

Shows how much Hamas value their own women and children. They hide behind them and among them. Hanas are happy to hide in schools and hospitals. Once they operate from those schools and hospitals then they become legitimate targets for airstrikes . This war is going to get worse before it gets better. It ll be interesting to see the Hizbollah and Iranian response. They are already tearing apart their organisations looking for the Shin Bet operatives .. If they over do their response then the Americans will intervene directly . That's Bibis thinking ..makes sense really. Then push on into lebanon. This war is only starting

You have yet to explain why the "beacon of hope" is colonising areas outside of its internationally recognised borders.

Not only that. If their information is so good that they know Hamas are hiding behind women and children then how come they haven't been able to free the hostages? It makes no sense because it isn't true.