Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

That unrest in the UK should be very concerning for us, due to two reasons. Reason one is that it may spark similar events here and the way the government is pushing through their plans, will escalate the tensions here. We have nowhere to peacefully place the lets call a spade a spade, the economic migrants, and ramming more IPAS centres into communities to deal with the numbers here will push communities over the edge. Secondly there are clashes now in the UK between the native population and the migrant population, hotels housing migrants have been attacked. This will force those migrants in the UK to run to Ireland and in doing so will feed into my first point. This has the potential to descend into a spiral of chaos and we need to act on this now or we will see similar scenes here like the UK.

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Is your cousin's brother not your cousin too?

A Hotel in Rotherham allegedly hosting asylum seekers is currently under attack. Bricks thrown at windows, burning bins against the hotel and recently it’s just been breached with scores of people entering it. Someone is going to get killed.

Blatant corruption 10 years on the trot now turning into a sprint.

Unchecked for a decade and now lo and behold.

It's all too easy to attempt putting ever tighter lids on tye situation but all its doing is building pressure.

It surely must be billions of euros at this point spent/funnelled on migration issues.

Multiple crises each year worse than the last, from housing to childcare.

Protest peacefully? No change.

Challenge via the law? No change.

Protest politicians? "Don't do that".

Protest developers? "Don't do that".

Protest outside migrant centres? "Dont do that".

Contact politicians? No change.

Ever more violent protests/riots? "Don't do that" (more obviously)

At some point, and soon by the looks of it, this situation is going to explode. There isn't a single, solitary f**king step taken by anyone, anywhere to address this situation in a decade. That's nothing more than deplorable neglect. But with billions flowing, it's no mystery.

Nobody wants to acknowledge why (utter neglect), nobody wants to put forward any solution, all people are good for now is devolving into violence and/or condemnation. As useful as an arsehole on your forehead.

Let's see if we can burn our way out of this neglect. Maybe if we condemn the reactions enough it'll all go away too.

I wouldn't bet on it though!

Seriously thats your take from that. So by that logic having tents around your housing area doesn't deminish peoples attitude or the price of a house but IPAS centre does.

Ok some good points made. Economy is strong but heavily biased towards non diversification. If you take our wealth standings as a ratio of Gdp to national debt we are 89th best in world.

In layman's terms , am I very wealthy if I have 42k in the bank but owe 223 thousand

The amount of metrics pointing to disimproving life just keep piling up.

Homeless numbers keep growing year on year, migrant numbers growing year on year, the public expenditure on migrant centres keeps growing, the paypackets are ballooning, the housing crisis is worse every year, the list of miserable projections is long and undeniable.

Who, in their right goddamned mind, thinks this is going to work out?

Who is surprised at the results thus far?

As I said above, name just one single thing done in the last decade that has had any positive effect on these metrics? Just one, that's all, can anybody catch it? It's a negligible question, because otherwise everything wouldn't be measurably worse.

Deplorable neglect and greed, children being left with unsurmountable generational problems going forward, and everyone is supposed to do what exactly, stay quiet and behave? Until when? Until what? There's nothing on the horizon to even cling to.

The best summation of this entire situation, beyond even migration, is that what goes around, comes around, and it's coming barrelling.

Its only a matter of time before England has a significant Islamic attack, not a Bataclan but something like Beslan with 300 plus dead in school or 9/11.

The left will say turn the other cheek. It's a response to Palestine or the Empire. They were only kids of gammons anyway etc, the response will tear England apart and no amount of calls for solidarity or arming the police to beat the proles down will stop it.

Is this your wet-dream or something?

You still don't have a slightest idea what is going on, what russia is capable off, and to what lengths they will go to **** up west. Sad.

How many of that 1.14 are Ukrainians? There are approx. 2 millions of them in Poland alone, of which 750 thousands are legally working. 3/4 of those can be directly attributed to russian invasion in 2014 & 2022.

Plus - most of the migrants are decent, hardworking people. It is edge cases that have potential to stir things up. Those are the people that putin's forces gather from all over middle east, africa and asia and helping them cross the border. People that have no chance to get here legally, because are often convicted criminals from countries that are not in war. It takes one like that in a thousand to start something bad, that everyone will regret eventually.

What is anyone doing to solve this growing crisis, and the multiple other connected crises?

Nothing, that's what.

We won't put them in homes, we'll put them in student accommodation, we won't put them in student accommodation, we'll put them in hotels, we won't put them in hotels, we'll put them in tents, we won't put them in tents, we'll put them in oap homes, and on and on and on.

Meanwhile homelessness is increasing year on year, housing crisis worse year on year, less gp's than ever, less police than ever, decreasing access to healthcare, childcare, like Jesus christ almighty!

The same crowd have been playing relay games with each other for a decade, and what in the actual f**k are they getting paid for?

Imagine a company hiring an employee who has completely sh*t the bed for a decade, more voluminous amounts of sh*t each year, and yet we're supposed to be shocked and surprised that the whole fabric of society is starting to fray? F**king really?

This laissez faire attitude to managing society is contemptible. It's results are the least surprising thing in the world.

And again I'll say it, there is nothing on the horizon in terms of solution. Absolutely nothing, just more hands off let's see what happens fu*kery. We already know what's going to happen. Anyone average person doing well or prospering amidst this fiasco is doing it in spite of everything, not because of it.

Somebody DO something while there's still some semblance of choice!

The entire situation is insufferable. One crowd losing the rag, the other crowd smugly condemning it, all while sweet f*ck all is done about anything.

I remember a friend living in a houseshare donkeys years back, four of them would constantly leave dirty dishes in the sink and all around it. A fifth one would come hone from work and ask them to clean up, and they wouldn't. Just kept going and going and going, probably months.

Happened to be in the house one day when that man came home, sink left filthy as usual. He proceeded to smash the kitchen up while the others looked on in shocked silence.

That's what's happening right now at country scale.

It's negligence to the point of incitement.

Lol yeah how smug to be condemning good for nothing scumbags trying to burn out and murder people in hotels in Rotherham. These are the same scumbags the garda battered in lansdowne road in the 90s.

The striking thing is that it is they who have failed to integrate into Irish society and local communities, not immigrants. Their contribution to the country is minimal at best…..they bring very little to the party. Immigrants actually have far more respect for the state and the law.

To be perfectly to the point, it does not matter a jot what moral side of a failing society you're on. We're all in it.

The metrics are startlingly bleak, have been for god knows how many years, and nobody has done anything of significance to address it.

Talk to me about the things done to address gp's, police, housing, migration, healthcare and so forth.

It'll be a very short conversation. And that's the problem. The actual root problem behind it all.