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Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭boardise


    What do you mean 'meltdown' ? He was burning up the leaderboard with 5 consecutive birdies and boldly went for the low percentage shot to try to get another -the shot was only narrowly off target ..that doesn't constitute a meltdown. He could have played safe but he was going for the gold rather than par in and contend for a bronze.

    If you want to talk meltdown -consider John Rahm -four shots clear to the final 6 holes and doesn't win squat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    You don't get money in the Olympics and all the best who qualified were there, just to win a medal.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭Higgins5473


    He didn’t choke, anyone that says he did doesn’t understand what the definition of choking in sport is, however, comparing rallying with golf and “going for it” is ridiculous. Golf is largely about game management and knowing when to and when not to go for it, something McIlroy struggles with but that’s another discussion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭bren2001


    That doesn't elevate it to a major.

    Around 25 of the worlds top 50 were not there. It's a weak field. I'd imagine Scottie would trade his medal in the for PGA if he could.

    As I said, youre heavily in the minority with this view.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭Adiaga 2


    I don’t think the Olympics is equal to or greater than a major. But I’d love to ask each of the current OWGR top 10 would they rather a Players Championship or Olympic Gold medal.

    I do agree that the field could be stronger but there has to be scope for that to change. They could also bring in a cut.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭techdiver


    I love the Olympics and golf is growing as a sport in it, but let's call a spade a spade. Any pro will take any of the majors over the Olympics every day. It might change in the future but as of now it's not even close.

    I think the format should change to a team event which wpuld make it more interesting from an Olympics point if view in my opinion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭boardise


    Agree totally. In my opinion for what it's worth ( i.e. nothing) I don't think Golf should be in the Olympics at all -nor tennis for that matter.



  • Registered Users Posts: 943 ✭✭✭Vinnie222




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭boardise


    Legitimate question but I'm sorry it woud take too long to explain my thinking about it. As I said -my opinion is worth nothing…my explanation likewise and would convince no one. I have to be content with being a member of small maverick minorities -if not a downright lone wolf-on many matters sporting.

    Golf in the Olympics ? -shur why not and maybe throw in Pitch and Putt while you're at it ? 😃



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    I think it depends. If you're a pro and had won a number of majors, and maybe also very into country, then Olympic gold has a strong draw I'd imagine.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,143 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    You and I would think so but there are many millions who never heard of the PGA or the US Open or any of the majors even, but they've all heard of the olympics



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭bren2001


    I'd consider the Olympics the biggest Major every four years.

    This was eagle_eyes comment who I think regularly watches golf.

    I think anyone who knows anything about professional golf would not consider the Olympics above any of the majors. That includes fans and players. I didn't think the above caveat was needed as eagle_eye is a regular poster here and I assumed we were talked about players/fans of golf.

    For the people who don't watch golf or have not heard about the majors, I'm not sure if the Olympics opens the sport for them but I also dont know. I think that's a different conversation too

    Post edited by bren2001 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,614 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    I don't know about that, did he see him crying his eyes out up there when he got the gold and the anthem was playing.

    I think for Scottie he gets the whole represent your country side of it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭bren2001


    He represents his country every 2 years at a RC. Id expect the American golfers to want a RC win in Europe over an Olympics win tbh.

    Winning an Olympics is cool. That's about it.

    Do you put the Olympics up there with the majors?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    You missed the point I was making, no matter what you compete in, you are in it to try win it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,910 ✭✭✭Russman


    I'd tend to think that for a sport to be in the Olympics, the Olympic title should be the biggest thing you can win in that sport. Pro golf and tennis have their majors and the gold medal will never IMO be the equal of a major. Actually I'd have golf in if it was for the amateurs. Might be nice to hear some of the prospects say they're not turning pro til after they play in the Olympics.

    Apologies, its not really Rory related !!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,811 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Well I'm not a pro golfer but I'd imagine the Olympics is equal to a major. That's how I'd feel about it. All the top players in the world who were eligible played.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Pre-LIV, the Players Championship had the strongest field in golf. It always had the top players in the world and usually around 80+ of the top 100 and 40+ of the top 50, if not higher. Everyone who was eligible, typically played (injuries aside). That didn't make it a major.

    There are 4 majors in mens golf.

    I think the Players v the Olympics is a very interesting one. I have no idea what someone at Rorys level would pick assuming they had not won either prior (i.e. not Rory).

    Post edited by bren2001 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,910 ✭✭✭Russman


    Yeah, it'd be interesting to ask Rory would he rather another Players or the Olympic gold ? Obviously as you say having one and not the other might colour his answer. Maybe asking him would he rather win the next Ryder Cup or the Olympics would be a better question actually. With neither being a major nor having prize money.

    Personally I think the Olympics isn't anywhere close to the Players, and is more a novelty event from a golf perspective at the moment. Maybe in 20/30 years time, if the dominant players of the day keep winning it, it may become a big thing, who knows. As much as I was never a fan of his, but would Tiger have even played in the Olympics ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭Benicetomonty


    It seems to me that Rory has come full 180 on the Olympics. After he skipped Rio (which I wouldnt have blamed him for tbh, even though the Zica excuse was obviously rubbish), he was all in in Tokyo, even saying afterwards hed never fought so hard in a tournament to finish 3rd. Not winning a medal in Paris hurt him as well even though he hid it better than he did the US Open loss.

    McIlroy skipped the Players in 2011 with his then manager exclaiming that he didnt like the course. He got a fair bit of a backlash for that, especially from the American media, and has played it ever since, probably grudgingly Id wager. Now that hes won it, Id say he could probably take or leave it, but as the PGA Tour's golden boy, he'll obv feel compelled to participate.

    Lee Westwood skipped the even also in 2011. He was world number 1 at the time. He skipped it again more recently, so he could go to Cheltenham if I recall.

    All in all, Id say the event is not as popular with the players as the PGAT would have us believe. The Olympics seems to be growing in popularity, even with the Americans on the back of Xander and scottie's exploits the last 2 editions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Until rules are changed on entry the Olympics won’t be as high as a major or even players in my opinion.

    Rio didn’t suit some players as maybe not much money to be earned from Brazil unlike Japan long term. That’s just reality of professional top sports people.

    Did he bottle the gold no as he was going for it and just a bit out but was he ever fighting for gold? No. Only for them few holes he wasn’t even in the medal hunt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,926 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    It would be a pointless question to Rory ..because he would answer one way..have cornflakes one morning next week and change his mind..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,910 ✭✭✭Russman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭coillcam


    There was the zika virus concern or excuse depending on your viewpoint. It was also a brand new purpose-built course and Brazil has no major golfing tradition to speak of. It wasn't a particularly attractive proposition. Hence a load of top guys skipping it.

    However, if it was only appearing in LA for the first time it'd be much more attractive to the pros. Given that it's the Riviera, US fans, pros living/playing there etc etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    https://www.irishstar.com/sport/golf/rory-mcilroy-bmw-championship-driver-33537565.amp



    awful scenes recently with driver throwing and snapping

    Head seems gone to total mush



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    The snapping shaft was just stupid rather than petulant. He bent down to grab the tee and leant on the driver. But that said, you can see the frustration. He came into this year having a new approach that looked like it would pay off, but in the end just more of the same. Flashes of brilliance destroyed by awful mistakes.

    I hope he takes a few months off to reset. He needs it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,709 ✭✭✭coillcam


    Love a good club toss. While it's never a good look tbh, I always get a laugh at the world's best players losing their mind. I think the snap is more of a freak accident, luck he didn't get speared in the arm by the shaft. Funny enough he wasn't allowed to replace it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,947 ✭✭✭RoadRunner


    The shaft snap was not accidental, even if he may have intended it look like it was.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,712 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Shaft maker must be pulling their hair out in that case.



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