Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

"Coolock says no" vs "Ulster says no"

Is it?

What are the figures from other countries and do they use the same data collection methods as the CSO?

And if you read what you shared it describes no-nationality as included those who didn't complete that section. I'm open to correction but isn't that just people who didn't fill out the form properly?

People arriving into Ireland seeking asylum, are often highly skilled and highly educated. Anybody can apply for permission to work after 5 months of being in the country

If they are highly skilled, then they should be entering the country through the legitimate work visa system and not abusing the asylum process.

These same people have passed through multiple safe countries, people who we have no idea who they really are, and we are to presume they are being genuine about their education achievements.

I'm just going to try to dumb this right down as to the reason the majority of the country's population are unhappy with the situation, as seen in so many polls over the last two years which consistently give an avg of 75% of people having a problem with it.

In one simple sentence:

Ireland (and by extension it's people) is being grossly abused by thousands of people who are not genuine asylum seekers

It really is as simple as that - Every subsequent discussion point, of which there are many, stems from the results of that statement

People don't like being taken for a ride and make no mistake, that's what's happening - Y'know the way you'd feel if you were lining your car up to reverse into a parking spot and some ***t nips into the spot before you when you were obviously there first - well that's the way the Irish people are feeling right now. Many a car door got keyed by very reasonable people over the years for that craic - (there are other examples I could use, but you know what I mean)

Back to that simple sentence/statement above - As this is happening, the Govt gaslight you for over two years telling you 'you're a big racist' aided by a MS media that would struggle to find a micro testicle between them. Then you find a thread on a site where other reasonable people are discussing this blatant abuse of the asylum system and you feel you are not alone, you aren't going mad and you feel slightly calmer - This thread then attracts people that don't/won't see a problem and they tell you all we need to do is to build more houses for these asylum system abusers and again imply that you're likely a big racist too. Well, there goes that calm feeling you enjoyed for a while eh

There were minimal issues regarding immigration by a huge majority of the population pre the last few years - The Govt and media are at fault here, nobody else - Ireland was a very welcoming country but due to gross Govt incompetence, not now. Never, ever underestimate the role our media have played in this shambles. They should have asked the most basic of questions and kept asking them and reporting on these issues:

Why is the Govt sending out tweets in multiple languages telling everyone of our new and improved refugee policies?

Why did you pay the highest s/w rate of any EU country to UA refugees?

Why did you allow 10's of thousands of secondary movements of UA from other safe countries at a cost of hundreds of millions of €'s when you had no obligation to do so?

Why did the media give super-soft interviews to O'Gorman - Why did they constantly accept that ROG was never available for live on-air debates?

Although we did indeed see Sarah McInerney metaphorically remove Rodders spleen live on-air as she filed her nails - Nothing too damaging re the shambles though, she was let flex her skills just a tiny bit - This coincidently happened approx 10 days before the massive bailout was announced - I thought it may have been a warning shot, but what would I know about such things

The Govt were/are basically operating with impunity - If the media had done their job 2 years ago, I guarantee you, we would be in a vastly different place right now - Gript (small as they are) are doing that job and the Govt don't like it one bit. You just have to look at the Gript thread to see that. Literally all they have is playing the man (gript) and not the ball (the articles) - The more left leaning people are bitching about Gript without even realising they're doing the Govt's bidding (or maybe they do)

I can think of 725m reasons why RTE would be onboard with everything the Govt does. It's not quite as clear-cut when it comes to the other media outlets and what they get in return, although I have noticed an increase in 'Brought to you by the Govt of Ire' ads on Newstalk etc - Pat Kenny and Barry Whyte used to do some great reports on the asylum shambles, but not anymore sadly as it looks like they were knobbled

We've met some interesting and colourful characters over the last couple of years both on and off these threads - We've met the likes of St Olivia of Canal as her search for a man continues, mad Bernie 'only one toilet!' lady and her deportation dodging Sierra Leone partner - We've heard of the lady from South Africa that had to come to Ireland for asylum as her hubby was giving her a few slaps - We were told here that if we stopped letting these asylum abusers into the country we need to start shutting hospitals! Gas. We've also had the pleasure of being lectured to by the goddess Catherine Day as she told us to do more (from her enormous mansion), All hail Catherine Day

We've listened to the NGO heads talk about our new friends arriving escaping from torture, persecution, raging wars, the horrors of 1cm deep potholes and bland food as we tried to stifle our giggles

Finally, we regularly hear from our Govt supporting friends (cunningly disguised as pearl clutching do-gooders) in damage limitation mode. They're tremendous fun in fairness