Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

That's your go to? Who should the israeli government negotiate with? You going to step up? You have the ability to negotiate on behalf of hamas leadership? Can you enforce Can you agree on behalf of them? Can you enforce any agreement?

Obviously Hamas leadership have to be involved in the negotiations.

Or is this just your way of saying no peace.

Another great write up by Johnathan Cooke.

How on earth Israel is allowed to compete in the Olympics is beyond me. It's sad we're lining up in support of the religious supremacist leadership of Israel

Hamas today is like the Black Hand in Serbia 110 years ago. They are terrorists who instigated a regional war (in the Middle East for Hamas, in Europe for the Black Hand) and then faded to irrelevance as the major regional and global powers took over and escalated the war far beyond the original scope. In the end, very few people at Versailles cared that the Black Hand terrorists achieved all their objectives for a greater Serbia and won. They were too busy with the dismemberment of Austria-Hungary, the overthrow of the Russian and German Emperors and replacement with a republic in Germany and a Bolshevik dictatorship in Russia, the collapse and partition of the Ottoman Empire, etc.

If Israel and Iran and the United States and its allies escalate this war, by the end of the war, very few people are going to care about Hamas getting the 1967 borders back if the anti-Israel side wins. They'll all be too busy dealing with the United States gets kicked out of the Middle East, the governments of its allied nations in the region (Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc) either turning their backs on the United States or getting couped and replaced with new governments hostile to the United States, Europe going through civil wars between its majority population and its Muslim minorities due to blowback from this Middle Eastern war, and so on.

Great to see one of the far left 'squad' being ousted. That's American politics...ruthless. it's a good day all the same

the US are hardly going to get kicked out of the middle east in an election year

As if you or I have anything to contribute to a solution!!!! But to put "negotiate" and "peace" together with the name of Yahya Sinwar is a very dark and cynical joke .There are, apparently, many of his favoured tunnels still left intact in Gaza but doubt any of them lead to Damascus.

tens of thousands of innocent Gazans have been killed. The entire gaza strip is leveled. people are starving because aid is blocked.

Besides that the westbank is living under apartheid, settlements are increasing. Neither side are looking good.