Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

They're not. Threads borked. Might need to close this one and start a new. It works sometimes.

Vance held a small rally in front of a sign saying "KAMALA CHAOS".

Then they had the great idea of having people stand in front of the sign as he talked.

Trump's campaign team once again only hiring the best people.

In his own wierd way, he is campaigning for Harris. He just has to keep being on the ticket and talking…and he's helping her. Comparing Walz to him is also helper her. So, this stupid sign planning seems somewhat fitting really. "Vance for Harris" should be a new PAC :P

It's the Dems fault /s

It's quite simple really.

Firstly, nobody was denying Biden's age was definitely a factor, he was a good bit slower and a worse orator than he was four years ago, and even then most of us would have preferred a different candidate four years ago. But people supported Biden in 2020 because he was a better candidate than Trump. Same goes for 2024. Nobody was denying age being a huge factor and would have preferred if Biden hadn't chosen to run at all again, but still would have supported him because he is a better candidate than Trump. Because despite Biden's age, he has not been deemed to have any actual medical or cognitive dehabilitation which would have meant he shouldn't be President. He's gotten shocking old, no doubt about it. But "clearly incompetent"? No.

Secondly, if Biden won and during his second term he did start to become impaired to the point of not being able to continue as President, people would have more faith in Harris and the entire Biden administration to see out the rest of his term, as there are existing rules and means for Biden to have either stepped aside, or been forced to if required (the 25th Amendment).

Thirdly, the opposition is Trump, and people are far more cognisant of the dangers posed by Trump returning to office. So even if they had to Weekend At Bernie's Biden around on the campaign trail, still a better option than Trump.

All people have to point to with Biden is he was slower talking, moving, stumbled over his words and trailed off on sentences. Signs of getting much older, naturally. That neither constitutes "clearly incompetent" or any kind of significant cognitive impairment which should have disqualified him from a second term. The reason the Dems convinced him to step aside was because it risked him getting a second term at all and was looking more and more likely to hand the Presidency to Trump.

Like who?

The general sentiment was that Biden was too old. I didn't find many posters who didn't agree with that.

Firstly, I'd choose Biden any day over Trump. He's a decent person and had a good first term. Secondly, his debate performance made me inclined to favour him not doing a second term. So I absolutely do think Harris is the right choice, particularly given the level of support she's managed to garner.

I'd say the recognition of another candidate being more appropriate is a hell of a lot more sensible than those who would be outraged if Trump had to step down from his run. Most sensible people wouldn't back a rapist and felon. Bit of a piece **** to want in office of president.

His communication skills had fallen off a cliff, which was a huge problem in USA elections and made him a poor candidate.

That's a different thing to incompetence in the sense that you imply it. I know some absolutely sharp as fcuk 80 year-olds but you have to communicate at their pace, listen attentively etc. A complete no-no for the cut and thrust of an election campaign.

I would have hoped that Biden stepped down before the election cycle …. but "Never Trump" won out for me.

I'm bowing out of this thread til it's either fixed or replaced. This thread freezing means it is quite unusable.

(Oh no! I might get some work done!)

It's been a bit of craic, look forward to the next time!

*Posting in hopes page updates*

I mean are you again not aware of American politics? The whole Dem vs. Rep 2 party deal news to you?

The democrats needed to find someone who isn't a convicted rapist and fraudster to run as president and someone who doesn't get turned on by furniture as VP.

The Republican's have set a low bar to beat.

The difference is; Biden stumbled in his communication when talking sense. Trump manages to very eloquently talk absolute horseh*t.

Trump is incompetent at communication in a different manner. There is nothing coherent, truthful or even logical in most of what Trump says. Biden occasionally mumbled.