Robust new policing announced in the UK - threadbans in OP

We're done here.

I don’t have any issue whatsoever with religious dogma influencing society though, it’s you who made that association without referring specifically to any religious belief system. It’s only natural that I would then be put in mind of the religious belief system which has had the greatest influence on what you call a progressive institution. That isn’t Islam, it’s Christianity. I didn’t conflate anything, it was you who asked us to remind ourselves yada yada.

It doesn’t make any sense in that context that anyone would need to remind themselves of the influence of Islam on the planet when it has had feckall influence in Western legal and political systems, whereas Christianity has, and even then I still don’t think much of your characterisation. It’s nothing to do with me being Catholic either, it’s everything to do with you having the issues with religious dogma or religious belief systems, that you wish to have anyone else be “reminded” of their influence.

But I’m not interested in pointing fingers either, I’ll just be rendered incapable of being able to take your point seriously is all.

Btw I’m still uncertain as to what institution you’re referring to as progressive that you imagine is doing any genuflecting, but Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights has been around a while now, if that’s the progressive institution you’re referring to:

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

Signatories don’t just get to abandon it when it’s an inconvenience to your beliefs.

Stamer as PM is just turning into a British inspector Javert

He needs to be ousted from his seat of power as a matter of urgency, and a more common sense centre-right coalition government installed to replace the woke marxist mob currently occupying Westminister.

It’s rather the case that I’m trying to understand the argument you’re attempting to make. You call me contrarian and tell me to pick a lane and stick to it, but you’re all over the shop! You made the point that we remind ourselves of the most yada yada religious belief system on planet earth. Well that’s Christianity, by a long shot:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations

Islam is pretty much limited to Middle Eastern, South East Asian and North African countries. Other religions such as Hinduism and Buddhism also have the exact same issues as Christianity proportionate to the numbers of their adherents, and then there are the thousands of smaller religions which, even combined, don’t have anything like the global or planetary influence of Christianity.

You’ve already chosen to ignore what I said when I said I don’t have any issues whatsoever with religious dogma influencing society, which might explain your confusion leading you to ask if it’s just Christianity I have a problem with. I don’t have any problem with Christianity in the same way I don’t have a problem with Islam or any of the many, many other world religions. You on the other hand, clearly do, to the point that you would wish it were removed from society in totality. If that’s not ignoring reality and putting forward a preposterous argument, then we’re clearly on very different wavelengths! 😂

That might explain though why you observe as progressives fighting the corner of Islam, as if that’s what’s happening in reality, when it isn’t, but you’re engaging in Olympic standard gymnastics to make the sort of claims and observations you’re making, while pointing out that if I were to do what you’re doing, I’d be a hypocrite.

The fundamental difference between us appears to be that I really couldn’t give a shìt for your claims, which amount to pure and unadulterated nonsense, nor do I give a shìt for what progressives think, or Muslims or other Christians, etc. I do give a shìt for the principles on which modern Western Democracy was founded, which are based upon an adherence to the doctrine of Human Rights, because that’s what separates civilised society from scumbags who only wish to promulgate anarchy, chaos and violent disorder that we have seen in the UK the last few days.

As you well know, they are referring to Islam. 

I didn’t know they were referring to Islam, purely because that wouldn’t make any sense, and it still doesn’t.

there is a very pro-Islam slant in the UK/West at the moment and if you have seen your church, temple or synagogue attacked and nothing done yet there is a crack team ready to protect mosques, you will feel very betrayed. It is playing into the hands of the low IQ protestors and not helpful.

There isn’t any pro-Islam slant in the UK/West at the moment though, and if you’ve seen your church, temple or synagogue attacked and nothing done yet there is a crack team to protect mosques, you might well feel very betrayed, salty even. You’d also be very much mistaken:

• Since 2010, the Government has returned £346 million to listed churches, synagogues, mosques and temples

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/nearly-5000-churches-across-the-united-kingdom-benefit-from-42-million-conservation-fund

I’ll give you one guess as to which religion in the UK received most of that £346 million in of public funds to carry out restorations and upgrades. I don’t think it’s anything to do with anyone’s IQ, clearly it isn’t, rather it has everything to do with some people having a debilitating victim mentality that clouds their judgement of reality, which leads to them looking for the flimsiest of excuses to portray themselves as the victims, in order to justify their engagement in criminal behaviour while imagining they’re on some sort of a righteous mission to protect “British values” 🤨

I now see that police have picked Ricky Jones,, and he will have some questions to answer.

I also think the cops should be speaking to the Chief of police for the West Midlands Police, for his very one sided post on twitter.

What fool that guy is,, speak to all people not just to one side,, and in English please.