Star Trek: Section 31

Is there absolutely any reason why that character needs to be Rachel Garrett. It's just getting so tiresome.

With added sassy girl boss.

Well Discovery fans did ask and they got 3 of them.

Well there was enough of them to get Strange New Worlds made.

I would say it is terrible and I'm almost certain S31 will be. I was just pointing out that it's wrong to say people didn't want a Disco spinoff.

Most of us are happy it got one.

Ok so fans and people who casually watched it and the people who hate watched it wanted SNW.

They definitely did not all think he was "by FAR" the best thing though because Discovery got another 3 seasons and 2 other big stars of season 2 in Tilly and Space Hitler are getting spinoffs too.

At least Academy will be honest about being a young adult show unlike Disco which was clearly written that way despite being told it wasn't.

The same crowd who loved all that over emotional crap loved the "girl boss" emperor.

I remember being a fan of Tilly in Season 1. She was a lovable dork who was a excellent foil to Burnham's dark/intensive brooding in the early days. Alas, I feel that the producers somehow learned that Tilly had fans, and instead of just keeping things going natually, they doubled down on her and we get stupidity like "The Power of Math!" and her tripping over her own tongue when an Admiral is on the bridge. They never seemed to get back to Season 1 Tilly after that, and never really seemed to know how to write for her in general either. If these are the same people running Academy, I can't imagine things improving.

Georgio was an excellent Starfleet captain in the pilot episode. I would have totally watched an entire Trek show with her as Captain. Alas no…as you mention we get "Arachnia! QUEEEEEN of the SPIDER PEOPLE!" (…."Activate the Lightning Shield!!"). If she had a mustache she would have twirled it so much it may have become a mini-helecopter and lifted her off screen. No respect what-so-ever for this character. If the whole point of her is to be a "girl-boss bad ass" I have seen countless better examples of this. If Section 31 is just more of this, then they really shouldn't have bothered assembling Wish .com's version of Guardians of the Galaxy to hang out with her, it's just not going to be worth it.

I honestly could have written that post. Agree on Tilly and agree on Georgiou. Georgiou from the Pilot I could watch all day. Her alternate universe copy however, just, no.

It's also highly unbelievable that a former Empress would fit into Starfleet long enough to join Section 31. How long would Putin last in MI6 recruitment training? I reckon about 40 minutes before a "Don't you know who I am??"

He has been for the most part successful. His job is largely choosing which projects to run with and if needed to put the showrunner in place.

He is bad at the showrunner bit with the likes of Paradise at Discovery and the various people over Picard.

But he also signed off on Prodigy, Lower Decks and SNW. I'm sure though some people will weave some story about how it was done in spite of him or at gunpoint.

Ah I could see why you think that then. Lower Decks and SNW were well received by older Trek fans and I was making assumptions based on that.

Section 31 was always going to be Discovery on cocaine given the setting and lead character so not at all surprised how bad it looks.