Star Trek: Section 31

The look and sound of multi million dollar creative bankruptcy right there.

Hard pass. It looks like it took all the awful bits of the Discovery approach, and ramped them up to 11. Completely devoid of ANYTHING that Star Trek represents. I'll be surprised if it's even worth pirating.

section 31 was a poor storyline in ds9 can't see me searching out this.

Jesus I couldn't even get through the teaser trailer.

No-one, I repeat no-one asked for a spin off of Discovery. Initially I was excited about a series dedicated to Section 31, but while being a fan of Michelle Yeo, I really dont like the character of Phillipa Georgou. They surely have enough Section 31 material without her being the central character?

I think this will be a hard pass from me as well.

I'm surprised they could find 3 Discovery fans.

The difference being, SNW is actually good.

I know Discovery is not terrible, but the main and central character in ST: Picard is Picard, they should have just called Disco, ST: Burnham.

Agreed per se, but I'm not sure SNW is down to 'Discovery fans' myself. It was just blindingly obvious to most watching Discovery (and likely to those funding the show) that Anson Mount was by FAR the best thing about Discovery season 2, and a show centered around him was a safe bet to expand into.

I would say to those watching at the time, be they fans, fans still optimistically watching, disappointed fans, and indeed hate watchers, it was very apparent that Mount lit season 2 up in a way that the regular cast did not.

Tilly and Space Hitler getting spinoffs....Tilly certainly did have a fan base in the early days, she kind of represented the everyday person in extraordinary situations etc....that did seem to fade for me at least, and the character veered on a different path, though she still had her moments...i kinda get the clueless execs green lighting her a show based on initial reactions to her.

Space Hitler, yeah, no idea on that one. A scenery chewing theatrical villain not wholly removed from an episode of a Queen of Arachnia type affair.

Section 31 will likely be a total write-off. The academy show will be like Discovery, a complete waste of a premise I imagine.

"I know Discovery is terrible, but the main and central character in ST: Picard is Picard, they should have just called Disco, ST: Burnham."

FYP and yes I agree Disco might as well have been called "ST Bernham."

Thats exactly it, Michelle Yeoh is a fine, versatile and strong actor. It's the stage theatrics of mirror Georgiou that just doesn't work...at all.

I'm all for strong female characters, hell I've just finished The Acolyte and loved every second of it (genuinely don't get the hate, it puts the sequel films to shame), but mirror Georgiou is just baaaaaad in every way.

More utter wa*k from Kurtzman, by the looks of it. It surely must be nearly over for that guy

Have no interest in the cartoons, to be honest. As for SNW, the casting and production values were decent. But it's all for nothing when the writing is dreadful. To quote someone else, "They all sound like excited kids at the mall.'' I gave up after the first couple episodes of the second season. I don't know what the viewing figures are for these shows, but they don't appear to be made for traditional Star Trek fans.

I thought I could see myself watching the S31 tv movie, as it's just a one off feature length thing. But I doubt I'll even manage that after that God awful trailer.

I think we'll be rooting for the bad guys to finish off Section31 In this film. Send them to Starbase 80

It's all set in one of these weird ass varients in my head canon anyway.

Thats how I have it in my mind. The only original Trek character in Disco, was Spock, but not our Spock. It was a Spock who spent time in a psychiatric hospital, had a weird looking beard and had a sister. So not our Spock.

None of the events of Disco affect TNG, DS9 etc.

I find it funny you quoted a post of mine from 6 weeks ago.

I was being diplomatic because I felt sure if I declared it as terrible, someone would flame me because they liked it.

I love her as an actress, but I hate her character in all Disco episodes except the pilot. I cannot sit through alternate-universe Georgeu, practically twirling her moustache every 5 minutes.

New trailer out,

Its certainly looks better in that than the Teaser Trailer. Still not very Trek like though.

I guess we only assume that everyone on Cheron was killed in their Civil War, and some might have been off planet at the time. However, that does kind of ruin the dramatic punch of "Let that be your Last Battlefield"

(Can already imagine the fluff-pieces for this declaring: "Section 32 Trailer finally solves 50 year old mystery!!")

It's a better put together trailer than last time for sure, and does seem to at least imply that Space-Hitler will have a solid team to work with her. But…I sense from the scenes here that we'd get the same empty caloies we got with Discovery and the low-points of Picard. Flashy Trek-adjacent special effects with superficial character beats that might sound good, but have little else going on.

I could be wrong, but I don't find myself any less dubious about this show or my potential to enjoy it. If people start reporting that it's good, I might watch…but I'm still of the mind of giving this a miss.

Dammit. I hate being right sometimes…

The thing about trailers is that the art of making good trailers seemed to be lost eons ago. Personally I think it all went to hell when we lost the legendary voice of Don LaFontaine (The "In a world…" guy. He could make anything sound awesome)

The past couple of decades have been rough when it comes to trailers. Some of the movies I really enjoyed happened to have pretty bad trailers and that seems to be pretty universal regardless of the end product.

A trailer will either:

• Be a bit tone deaf and try to (badly) generate excitment with flashy visuals.
• Contain scenes that don't even exist in the final work
• Or, worst of all, simply tell you the entire movie, destroying the point of even watching it.

The fact that trailers are usually so very bad at their job means that sometimes a bad trailer might be attached to a good project. So there's a slither of a possibility that a bad Section 31 trailer is somehow attached to a good show.

However since the people who made this show have form for doing a bad job with Trek, I'm inclined to believe that the trailer is showing us the quality we should expect from a Discovery spin-off.