(Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself?) Any update?

Yes some sort of deputy system for mods to action obvious rereg trolls would make sense.

We used to have a 12 point system with the cards, so any mods online could team up and ban spammers by accumulating cards.

If you're banned from so many threads that you can't even keep them straight any more, then perhaps it's time for a bit of introspection rather than calling for a change to the system. Just saying...

That would make sense, but I think it might be too complicated for Vanilla!

In theory you're correct, but with the example of that thread, there's a lot of bans that have been handed out for bickering between posters on thread that back in the day would have been dealt with visibly with the card system before they got out of hand and mods posting in thread (this just simply doesn't happen anywhere near enough BTW).

If all discussions about popular topics were put into a super thread format and you had approaching 100 banned users you're going to just stop people using the site in the long run.

Bans should have time limits with the expectation of better behaviour at their conclusion.

There's people serving sentences in Irish prisons for violent assault that last less time than threadbans on boards.ie.

I recently posted in a thread that was merged into a thread I was banned from and two weeks later I got a pointed warning from an admin for posting while threadbanned, so merging threads is not necessarily the panacea you may think it is.

It was done automatically with the card system iirc

I'm not sure they can do it outright.

But if they give enough points warnings, the end result will be a site-wide ban, abeit a temporary one.

I'm pretty sure I read a case of this in the dispute forum recently, where someone was issued 3 separate warnings on the same thread in very quick succession, resulting in the poster being site-banned.

To be honest it sounds like you have more of a bias problem than the mods. Being up to date on current affairs should have no effect on whether a mod can do their job or not.

I think it would be very obvious if someone was only reporting posts that disagreed with them.

I would disagree that most mods actions are the result of reporting. There wouldn't be so many complaints about no response to reporting if that was true.

Posting off topic is abused to derail threads , and to spam multiple threads with the same issue. Usually because they've been told to stop in another thread.

Well it is like school children when people are too busy watching others rather than watching their own posting styles or posts. If someone reports a post, it is the Mod who has to deal with it.

If it is reported and deemed not actionable, then nothing happens. if posters/posters are actioned in any way, that's their own fault, as there was clearly something wrong with their post in the first place.

It is not about controlling the minority opinion, everyone is entitled to their own, but if its actioned then its against the charter, its that simple.

I genuinely dont believe people are continuously reporting posts, its never been mentioned by a Mod.

Is it banned with prison access maybe ?

Not sure what it is .

On banned posters posting elsewhere on similar threads ..

I think it depends if the thread was set up in order to and is discussing exactly the same topic .

This is where the topic of a thread and dragging off topic etc comes to the fore although agree that it is something that people could be warned about publicly but being banned for it seems a bit strong.

There are a few things that are very heavy to be banned for , like posting anecdotes ,back seat modding , and dumping links , that should really only attract a warning and as posters have said above the card system or the public warning on the thread would sort that out pretty quickly along with bickering and straying genuinely off topic due to a wandering conversation .

Not saying that somebody who repeatedly does the same thing is not taking the proverbial and should be actioned accordingly .

I also think that longtime posters who are mostly well behaved being thread banned for a series of these smaller and forgive me , petty offences ,but are reported to get rid of opposing views , is shooting the site in the foot really.

Especially when the main offenders against the" not being a dxck " premise are posting away with impunity .

Like a referee stopping play continually in a game for minor infractions but allowing a goal when half the scoring team are off side .

It's too few mods reacting to reported posts without having the time to read through the whole conversation .

There's an argument to be made that if you don't have resources then cut your cloth to fit.

Ban the subjects that overload the mods. Other forums do this. Simply don't allow subjects which are too much work.

Force some strict rules like new posters can't create threads or post on certain forums until they've had x number of trouble free posts.

I'd argue there are smaller sites with mostly stock forum installs that work a lot better than boards does. That's with minimal resources also..

Reduce the footprint. Get rid of all the old posts. Most are obsolete and can't be searched anyway. Its dead weight.

To often it's one person repeatedly breaking the charter gets no attention but someone does it once in response gets the book thrown at then. There is no point posting in a thread or forums where that's going on.

You don't even have to be sanctioned. If someone is constantly allowed to act the Muppets that makes people leave a thread also.

Only mods should moderate mods. No one else has earned that right.

Something in that vein was definitely said at one point. That Mods only had the capacity to respond to reported posts (that is my paraphrasing).

I agree it does not change things though, each post should stand on its own merit. There is no way that Mods could, or should be expected to read every post.

Fair enough...

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Its literally years since we first questioned why it was taking literal years to appoint new mods.

Can people appreciate how many really, really difficult things have been achieved in the years since we were first told that finding new mods was "hard"? How many insanely complex projects have started and finished in those years?

To repeat what I said years ago, there comes a point when its not the difficulty that's the problem.

Where there is a will there's a way. No will, no way.

They don't have to read every post, but they should at least read the context in which a post is made if they're handing out warnings

Is there a complete full list of all the current active mods/cmods/admin mods and their forums @Spear

I haven't seen that, so fair enough if so.

I dont believe Mods have the resource to investigate in any great detail, so not sure what can be done to help here.