(Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself?) Any update?

One example does not sink the whole argument.

Sorry to disagree, but no, it doesn't. But I'm not here to argue with you about it on the basis of one poor example.

I've both experienced mod bias, and witnessed it myself. I don't require you or anyone else to validate that it exists for me.

You just missed what I said .

I was saying less criticism of the few overworked and under resourced mods , not of the site as a whole .

Constructive criticism like that going on here and in the original thread generally is a catalyst for positive change and I am as disappointed as you that we have not heard more about what the mods think. I can only assume they are run off their feet trying to keep up with the site .

Of course if they were being paid to do the job at hand , criticism directed at them would be fair enough .But they are not .

They are volunteering their free time to patrol and try to keep the site civil and regulated which is practically heroic under present day conditions !

And that is why I think if we want Boards to continue as a group and to become again a community it is down to all of the regular posters here to help by reporting and supporting the site . This does not mean tolerating bad service as in Vanilla, threadbans that are unexplained or not warranted etc but it may mean more people volunteering to moderate from all sides of the debate to try to take the pressure off one or two fora .

I don't know why there are not more mods on CA . I said this on the original feedback thread . This appears to be the most contentious and more prone to reregging by trolls and banned posters who couldn't give a f if the site goes down in flames as long as they stir up any trouble that they can .

When people post just to cause trouble I wonder why they are posting here , why they don't just post on another site where there are less rules and moderation ?

(Again please do not take any of this personally .I disagree with how you say you think CA needs less moderation but I respectfully do so because it appears to me to be a genuine argument in good faith and is appreciated as such )

It's very hard to be supportive of mods, when they act unfairly. 🤷

This is the kind of posting that is driving people away.

Two "new" posters who are on the site for a few hours.

Be far worse if they weren't there at all like other sites .

I don't think its perfect like I said previously but it is not as bad as being painted , else , why are we all here ?

I have had my moments too ....those who have never had are posting in non contentious threads or are saints or are just much cleverer than me . Not sure which .

I get what you are saying but I cannot agree with "coralling them in one area " .

That is exactly what appears to happening on one thread on CA where the only few moderate posters are down to a handful of saints as described above who can handle the absolute dregs of posts and trolls which may probably get Boards in trouble yet with some of the dross being posted * ...but thats my opinion .

The rest of us are too hot headed to handle it and have been eventually banned .

Is that the sort of "coralling " you are talking about ?

Moderate posters will go to different threads but it casts a long shadow .

Fair enough .

We have agreed on more so I'll take that !

I haven't been active on the threads you guys have been talking about here so can't comment specifically .

By the way your other post didn't come up on my notifications at all ..just checked only this last one . Thats another issue.. all the glitches .

There are now five threads on immigration/islam just on the front page of CA alone, perhaps some effort could be made to consolidate them so the whole forum isn't taken up with it?

Thats a good point. Creating new threads similar to old ones is also a tactic from some posters to evade thread bans. Unfortunately I could see the other side of the argument that some of the threads you mention are related to immigration in general while others are related to specific current events.

Some posters are only interested in transgender issues or immigration and will try to have as many threads going on those issues at the same time.

Create a bunch of generic mod accounts; CA mod 1, CA mod 2 etc. Share the login details with those current mods willing to give 30 mins or whatever to mod CA. When a warning / thread ban is applied, advise that pms are not monitered and wont be replied to.

It's completely generic, saves time without the back and forth pms, and you'd look like a right clown to claim "CA mod 6 is totally biased against me."

Outside of CA, mods use their regular accounts as normal.

No DRP for anything in CA.

the lack of in thread search is big problem, main reason I don't participate in long political/current affairs threads here anymore, you cant search to see if somebody has already said what you want to talk about

How then can the bias accusation be dealt with? It seems a lot of posters just think certain mods are biased against them. That situation doesnt really work for either mods or posters.

The zero refugee policy thread currently has 78 threadbanned users.

If you consolidate any other discussions into one thread including that thread you're telling more than half the CA forums active users that they can't comment on anything related to those topics, not exactly a recipe for saving boards from being a graveyard.

Threadbans should have a maximum term set (say three months for example) with any new offences incurring something like a one month forum ban.

Currently busy threads end up with the majority of people banned and rereg accounts popping up all over the place.

A new approach is needed, thinking caps time.

If people have found themselves on a threadban list because of their behaviour they'd be better off reflecting on their posting instead of complaining they wouldn't be allowed to contribute.

As I said in an earlier post, threadbans should be done away with. If you're being threadbanned you're in breach of the forum rules therefore you should be removed from the forum in its entirety for a period of time.

The current situation of having 4-5 threads on the same topic negates any effect threadbans had, if they ever had any at all. It's like taking a Playstation off a child and sending them to their room where they have an Xbox.

The suggestion was just for CA. Scrap DRP for CA and accept that we're all adults and sometimes a bit of tough love is needed. Most going to DRP are complete time sink posters.

As I said in an earlier post, threadbans should be done away with. If you're being threadbanned you're in breach of the forum rules therefore you should be removed from the forum in its entirety for a period of time.

On this point, I don't think that is always the case.

I've seen it happen where a mod has come up with a completely new and seemingly spurious "rule" on the spot, and used it to warn / threadban.

Or the mod is just in a bad mood.

I often forget what threads I've been threadbanned from, so either get rid of them, or get the system to enforce them.

I don't believe this is necessarily true.

If a post is reported as being 'off topic ' the mod responds to that post, really the post should be read along with any posts it replies to. 'off topic posting ' alone, seems a very weak and unfair way to threadban a poster

It's not that hard to tell.

There was one ex-mod in particular who used to get openly frustrated, and it came across loud and clear in their comments on thread.

Open to correction on this, but I think its only a CMod or Admin who reverse another mod's warning or ban, and only if the poster takes to dispute resolution - which in itself is a ridiculously complicated process.

I think the chain of command is Mod > CMod > Admin > Mike.