M6 - Galway City Ring Road [planning decision pending]

Seems Like a very easy to do project with massive benefits. I note it's the council lending the project, not the NTA so it's probably destined to failure. If it was successful their Bypass pet project would face greater viability issues.

These types of projects should be taken off the council and transferred to the nta. Clearly not enough competency at council level.

You clearly for whatever reason don't want it built. You'd rather have oul diesel's in standing traffic bilging toxins out for folk to breathe. I suspect you live in an area affected by the road. That area has the deepest pockets in Galway unfortunately.

It certainly isn't a false argument no matter how you try and twist it, because the houses have already been built in an urban sprawl from Salthill to moycullen. There is no transport infrastructure. There aren't even enough pavements. That horse bolted so long ago it is in the food chain. There's a few of the ultra rich who are perfectly content that the residents of lower Newcastle and all the estates circling the east side of the bridge are living in permasmog so long as the view isn't spoiled. 🙂

The bridge will be built eventually, just at a greater cost than what could have been achieved prior to objections and delays, the moycullen bypass is on a small scale but the benefits can be seen by all out west of the city and it's confirmation of how badly a bypass is needed in the city. Galway has suffered at the hands of the greens and they have had their answer in the ballot box. It's time they were taken on in europe as well and put back in their box. I'm all for climate change and sustainability but sitting in lines of traffic because of objections for 30 years has made me question the green agenda. A bypass would free up the city centre for pedestrianisation and public transport options. But it's easier just object to everything and pretend we can keep the Galway of the 1980's when most of these greens blew into college in Galway and formed most of their ideas in Mick Taylors in a haze of weed.

I don't have data to hand, and I'm not going digging for it, but maybe I didn't phrase myself very clearly. Taking Oranmore as an example, the bypass there is 30 years old and nothing was done to encourage alternative travel choices within the town after it was built. I don't think that there is any doubt that there is more traffic within Oranmore town today than there was 30 years ago. It's only natural that there would be with the increase in housing in the town since then and nothing done to discourage car traffic within the town or to make other transport options more attractive. But the bypass also certainly increased overall traffic as it made it more viable for people to choose to live in Clarinbridge/Gort/Ennis and work in Galway city. You can argue that the bypass is a good thing, as someone travelling from Limerick to Sligo no longer had to drive through Oranmore, but the other effect was to increase the number travelling by car from south Galway and further into the city, bypassing Oranmore, but then contributing to increased congestion on the Coast Road, the Old Dublin Road, Bothar na dTreabh etc. The one positive here is the opening of Oranmore station (albeit 2 decades after the bypass was built), and the rail connectivity from Gort and Ennis, but if you're living in Bluebell Woods for example there are still no attractive options to get from your house to the station other than by car through the town.

The bypass of Moycullen will work out the same way. I know people who were already commuting from Doon and Oughterard to the east side of the city before the bypass, and they are having a much easier commute since the bypass opened. But painful nature of that commute before the bypass limited the number of people willing to take it on. Now the existence of the bypass is going to encourage more people who work in the east city employment hotspots to live north of Moycullen. Before long the traffic delays will equalise again, just with increased volumes over what was there before. And there's no prospect of rail arriving as partial relief like it did for Oranmore.

The Ring Road, as currently planned will just have the same effect on a much larger scale. Despite the efforts of one lazy poster above to dismiss the objectors as anti-everything dope smoking greens it has been frequently pointed out, in this thread and others that touch on the subject, that if there was a comprehensive transport plan, that incorporated a ring road with corresponding improvements in public transport and active travel provision, then much of the opposition would evaporate.

First and foremost the road trough the town is now far more pedestrian and cycle friendly and business is benefiting , but I guess nothing I say will convince you

In fairness, the moycullen bypass has been great for moycullen itself, but it remains to be seen whether it will make much difference getting into Galway or over the bridge until the schools and college are back.

Most folk moving out that way are doing so because they can't afford what they want home wise, be it purchase or rental in Galway city.

😂 Ok