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Russia-Ukraine War (Threadbanned in op)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,572 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    on your last point that at least makes some sense, in some sense yes as in with all the surveillance and chatter and what not, but if it has no staying power it will count for nothing in a few months , wont the "middle finger" have difficulty being resupplied or having time to dig in properly, Im not sure why you need a "Mexico" analogy? it's simple enough to understand on its own terms

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,918 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The 1000 men sent in are under no illusions about coming back but the damage and benefit will out weigh the loss



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    It's not me that's saying it. We're already seeing the benefits and they keep on coming.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,884 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Wasn't this a Russian convoy that was attacked by Ukraine?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Yep. Might be too early in the day for the old sarcasm detectors. I was referring to the post saying that it's a very expensive exercise for Ukraine. It looks too be turning into a solid investment. The airfield was potentially hit from drones launched from within Kursk.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    That's some amount of dead soldiers. In this day and age and with drones and missiles you really have to spread your reinforcements out and not bunch them all together especially if your in your own country and the enemy are miles from you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Wasn’t discussed yet but the silence from US, Germany etc is deafening

    Starting to look like Biden knowing he is on way out have a thumbs up

    Also reports of all restrictions on weaponry use in Russia lifted which might explain todays spontaneous combustion of an airfield far behind the lines



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭pcardin


    and I think that is exactly why Ukraine entered ruSSia. That gives them additional distance to strike more strategic object of nazi scum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,495 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    This is great because it calls Russia's bluff. Yes they can get the territory back but are they willing to utterly raze Russian villages to do so? They don’t seem to have any other offensive tactics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,388 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Great move by Ukraine, are the Russian army willing to level their own towns i wonder.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,652 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    of course they are…. this is Russia we are dealing with… not some civilised country.

    They couldn't care less about some sh1tty town/village near the border.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    So if Russians die in Russia and not Ukraine the family gets nothing in compensation

    Explains why seeing so many POWs



  • Registered Users Posts: 711 ✭✭✭scottser


    There's definitely an element of 'cause as much damage as possible now before the orange ****-flinging baboon gets in to power' about this incursion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭rogber


    As already said I think it's a bold and daring move. I just don't think it's going to be a major turning point, though certainly an interesting development. As always, it will take time to see its true significance, which may be psychological more than anything else.

    Interesting parallel to the Hamas invasion of Israel last year, clearly caught them off guard. However I expect the Ukrainian military is behaving in a much more ethical way than Hamas did (though wouldn't blame them if they gave the Russian population a little taste of what Ukraine has gone through)



  • Registered Users Posts: 887 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    There were images of a super long convey of Russians on their way to Kursk yesterday. It seems like they haven't learn their lesson since the shitshow of the Russian Kyiv Convey of 2022 that this is a very bad idea.

    Putin is personally getting involved and making statements over this incursion. The top brass must be panicking and making more stupider decisions than normal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,574 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Call it whatever you like, but as sure as hell, it has put the wind up in the Russians… now they have a difficult choice to make, remove troops from other areas for a counterattack, and leave those areas exposed and vulnerable to Ukraine attack, rinse, and repeat? or what?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Chatter that there was more than one column destroyed last night.

    Also, confirmation from Ukraine on the airfield hit in Lipetsk.

    Ukraine says it hit Russian military airfield in Lipetsk region | Reuters

    "Several sources of ignition were recorded, a large fire broke out and multiple detonations were observed," Kyiv's military said on the Telegram messaging app.Russian Su-34, Su-35 and MiG-31 warplanes were based at the airfield, it said.A security source told Reuters that the attack was carried out by drones as dozens of planes and helicopters stood on the airfield, as well as a warehouse containing 700 guided bombs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭Avatar in the Post


    Anyone got footage of the talking heads and their reactions… I’m guessing “impudent” Ukrainians or some such and calling for them to be wiped off the face of the planet. Nukes and some more nukes.

    The Russian mindset has been nobody will dare invade us and we don't need to put resources into protecting our borders… but, they have spent a fortune keeping their expensive nuclear arsenal in tip top condition!?



  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭Avatar in the Post


    I’d say the rinse and repeat is inevitable unless Putin deploys his scarce resources to shore up his entire border.

    Either way is a massive and continuous win for Ukraine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    could this be the black swan event ? Could the house of cards finally collapse ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,918 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    There is no alternative in urban fighting against a determined or half determined opponent but ending up leveling it, that applies to retaking the Ukrainian towns as well. It's the same in every war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,622 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Not a whole lot of Russian aviation being involved. Was hoping a few would be taken out by AA and stingers. Are they scared of losing them and F16s with amraams?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,615 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    You mean swan lake? Hell no. Russian state media reported that 17 Ukrainian incursions consisting of 1000 soldiers driving 2000 tanks were destroyed 4 times before they crossed the border.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭pcardin


    so, if vatniks are contracted for special military fcukup in Ukraine, is their contract void if military fcukup happens on ruSSia territory?



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Lipetsk-2 Airport seems to be a major staging point for attacks in Ukraine, given the aircraft types stationed there relatively recently, plus the usual carefree ammunition dump out in the fields towards the town.

    Here is an overview of the field itself:

    NASA published details of fires picked up by satellite a number of hours ago. Note the position of the fires with respect to the V-shape of the runways.

    We can now zoom in on that position and we find the ammunition dump that was attacked last night. Please note the carefree and usual manner in which the Russians stack bombs and munitions out in the open in clear lines, similar to how we would stack gas cylinders.

    In one section, you can clearly see the online of munitions hidden underneath the tarpaulin.

    These are not to be confused with the white drop-tanks which you can spot scattered around the airfield itself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Interesting so 6000 lads rampaging around

    So if Ukrainians were stopped why declare highest level of emergency?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,689 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Lipetsk-2 continued..

    There are also some noteworthy aircraft types stationed here.

    We see 5 of the latest "5th Generation" SU-57 parked up.

    An older Su-27 from the Falcons Aerobatic Team, still in its demo colours:

    And an assortment of older types, including SU-24 bombers, with their wings swept back for parking

    It's unclear when Google Earth was updated, but they are relatively recent and I find it extraordinary that such an important airfield, so close to the front, would not have had more robust defences. If Ukraine take the field, it will be a monumental coup, and will most likely result in the "relocation" of whichever aircraft are left. I imagine local bloggers will notice a major uptake in flights OUT of this airbase soon if it is clear that Ukrainian forces are advancing on it.

    We live in interesting times.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    @greenpilot - Ukraine won't be advancing on the airbase. It's in another Oblast and 300 km from Ukraine. The distance involved makes last nights hit significant though.



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