(Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself?) Any update?

If a post is actionable, it should be actionable, whether it's responded to, or not.

If a reported post must be left unchallenged for fear that it will affect the outcome of a report, then the owner of the actionable post has effectively succeeded in closing down any discussion.

Which is usually what they want.

I see what you are saying .

But I repeat I don't think all posts that are uncivil are removed unless they are very offensive. I would think that all very offensive ones or ones that are attacking should be removed or publicly noted by a mod.

I have had similar recently with offensive posts to me, about me not being removed and poster continuing seemingly unabated

It has the effect of removing you from the conversation , which is precisely what the troll wants to do , and the sense of unfairness , although I reported it a few times that it still remained for all to see , as if the mod agreed with the attack , still rankles .

That's not fair or right .

I agree that the rules should be applied across the board and context taken and the goading poster should be actioned in the same way .

Before the above I would have argued that that is what is happening but my faith has been undermined significantly by that particular event .

I liked the mod note that used to say eg " Goldengirl and Mister Anarchy both stop the bickering / fighting or you will receive threadbans , Some posts will be deleted . " in bold , on the thread , and a warning given to both . It is a chilling effect on the whole to and fro , for me anyhow , but at least it was fair .

Don't know why this stopped , is it another Vanilla-ism ?

That latter part of your post was written by another poster btw .

We're reminded mods are human, well so are all posters.

Some posters can contribute politely but they are continuously quoted, their posts deliberately misinterpreted and, a very common low-level trolling tactic, told their posts are saying something completely different with a sentence or two quoted in isolation to "prove" they said something racist, sexist etc.

A few pages of that and they snap, get reported by all the others engaging in that behaviour and threadbanned. The others carry on the same shtick with others then.

The sanctioned poster is then fobbed off when they point put why they snapped in DPR. All they were trying to do was engage politely and repeatedly clarify their point. That could surely be looked at in DPR and the behaviour stamped out on the relevant thread. I'm not suggesting the behaviour of the poster who was sanctioned should be ignored, just that the instigators should be sanctioned too. That would very swiftly cut out that nonsense because everyone would know they won't get away with it.

I was one of them. 😬😳😂

That's an example of good modding, a direct, but polite 'cop on'.

I would reply civilly if I can but quoting the poster not the reported post

Not sure if this is the right thing to do but it certainly is very hard to wait sometimes over a day or so for an attacking or offensive post to be removed or the poster actioned and I agree , you should have right to reply and not be forced from the conversation .

Sometimes it is best to leave it though and move on to something else ignoring the attacker but reporting it .

The problem is if you get too caught up in that argument you end up pvssing others off who just want to talk on the topic and you yourself will end up with a warning or worse then .

I think its obvious how it appears bias and drives people off the thread and forums.

Even if it's not intentionally bias its encouraging a certain style of posting and behaviour by the lack of sanction.

I think it's a cop out suggesting just because you don't get feedback about reporting doesn't mean nothing was done.

If problematic posters continue to post unsanctioned that's telling you all you need to know.

Isn't telling someone to "cop on" considered uncivil posting?

Not trying to target you in particular BBOC, but I received a threadban once for saying something as mild as that.

on its own I’d say that’s plenty weird to be warned on usually it’s just said as a punctuation to a larger exchange of ideas, but depending on whatever context who knows, eg. Is it punctuating an argument or is it backseat modding. I don’t believe the former is uncivil and the latter might be an issue. An admin telling others to cop on seems like a different scenario.

I don't see why there should be difference in standards applied…

But on the larger issue, this is again a example of where context strongly applies.

I don't need to "cop on", your literal words were "it is very likely they have been missed by moderators".

You said that blatant abuse wasn't actioned likely because it was just missed.

Own your words.

An hour ago I would have assumed reports could never be "missed", they could only be either actioned or unactioned, like tickets to a support desk.

Now I find out that being "missed" is something very plausible. How does that even work then, do we assume that if there are a lot of reports that mods just skip to the most recent ones? Are there thousands of unactioned reports from days where the mods weren't online and didn't go back to check them all?

Cop on indeed, you are one who casually suggested that people should PM mods to look at reports, as if that isn't a failure of the entire bloody point of reports.