(Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself?) Any update?

Undoubtedly.

The last few posts really do show some of the problems this thread is trying to highlight but I'd imagine not in the desired way.

Some people just refuse to actually engage in an actual discussion in a coherent manner and just keep repeating the same faux issues. Then blame others for derailing a discussion they have refused to contribute to.

What do you see as a subtle dig?

If it was the paragraph about trolls you'd know what it meant if you suspected the same posters of being trolls. I obviously can't elaborate further and accuse some posters of being trolls, but I'm sure everyone can recognise some in whatever fora/threads they participate in.

Re the meet ups - while it is a lovely idea and was successful in the past I think we're all more aware of the negative side of online behaviour and I'd say many would be reluctant to waive their anonymity now. It might work better for private groups, but any I'm in are very quiet.

It's this paragraph right here:

Whats really galling is a few of these troll type posters, some of the most blatant on Boards are actively posting on this thread and trying to feign constructive input.

Which you seem to support. Judging by your next post.

So tell me, do you not see it as a dig towards posters?

I'm obviously missing some point, so maybe you can tell me the point of adding that paragraph in?

Did it add constructively to the thread? If so, how? I cannot see it myself. I asked the OP, but he doesn't engage, .

Tell me, why can you not elaborate further? You are afraid of calling out trolls? Have you used the report button to allow the admin to judge for themselves?

Because right now, all I'm seeing are trolls that are not adding constructively to this debate in feedback at all.

Funny thing is, at the height of boards success, I would say the mods were far from balanced. And very well known for it. This was absolutely a liberal, LGBTQ Friendly, anti-Nazi, Anti fascist site, and it was a lot more popular for it.

There was no "freedom of speech" on boards back then.

If you didn't like it, tough. There were other fora for you. The likes of Stormfront etc.

It's feedback thread, pointing out that there are trolls on Boards is Feedback, pointing out that those you think are trolls have posted on the thread is feedback.

Wouldn't it be a better site without trolls?

I don't count posters who challenge my posts as trolls, I'm not six.

It's their observable behaviour, I don't interact with some of them but I can see the repeated patterns of behaviour. They could challenge all my posts if they wanted, but I'd just ignore them.

Depends on what you class as trolls.

I would class people that don't engage as trolls.

I would class people that snipe as trolls.

I would class people that flame bait as trolls.

I would class people that video dump as trolls.

I would class people that don't actually put forward suggestions on a feedback thread, but use it to air petty grievances instead as trolls.

It's a site wide issue. No direction from the top. No definitions of what's allowed. And no rules publicised.

Look at the politics charter, for example.

8 years old and if you follow the link for further information on board rules, it brings you here:

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/faq.php?faq=bie_faq

Which of course, is empty.

Or look at the CA/IMHO charter...

You can't, there either isn't one, or it's just not stickied.

That's crazy. The changeover was what, 2 or 3 years ago? I get that there's a ton of goodwill volunteer moderation that goes into the place (I was a mod here for about 18 years) but come on, when the changeover happened, one of the issues that should have been looked at was making sure the rules of the place were stickied in every fora, with fora specific charters coming later down the line.

We all know the site is awful, I doubt at this stage it will ever be sorted.

This thread was started to get an update on the previous thread where plenty of feedback was given by a lot of users.

I don't know why every post here is brought back to left vs right wing. None of mine are related to politics or the CA forum.

There's more to Boards than posters arguing the toss over their political ideologies. This isn't specifically aimed at you, it's just been brought up a lot in this thread.

We just need for technology to catch up so we can clone a few more mods like Seth Brundle and have them sort out the site. The Politics forum does not f*ck about:-)

I'm sure we used to 🤣

I definitely remember people going to the help desk to complain they got banned because "That Liverpool supporting mod banned me for being a United supporter".

I miss Rubot