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Olympic Games Paris 2024 - AH Thread [Thread banned posters listed in first post.]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,671 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    No individual gold in swimming either. Been a poor return from them in the major sports. Only one bronze in boxing too is a very bad return. In fairness they had a few near misses like Kerr and Smith, they threw away another rowing Gold as well.



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Agree on the brits. A lot of their medals came in lesser sports.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,397 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I would concur with that. Never seen a throw like it. Also loved Hocker and Hall winning on the line, especially the latter given the angry face run he made.

    Lyles needs a kick up the hole. At least Usain backed up his confidence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,197 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    4x400 women’s relay will live in the memory. Great games, detox is gonna be hard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Randycove


    shame St Lucia isn’t shown, they’re return must be incredible.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Uzbekis are known to bribe boxing judges.

    Does anyone know why Jamaica did so poorly?

    Was it just a blip or was the Bolt's generation a golden one?

    Or have the testers caught up with them?

    Or is it a multitude of factors?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,671 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Bolt was confident but had the charisma to make himself likeable. Lyle's just comes across as an arrogant Richard and a very sore loser. Had to make it all about himself and took a moment away from a young man who just won his countries first Gold Medal. Have to say overall brilliant Olympics, France can feel very proud the backdrop for many events was incredible, best Olympics since London for me, nice to get to watch so much of it live as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,671 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    I didn't watch every fight but I watched all SF and Finals, none of their medalist were the recipients of a lucky decision. They all deserved to win their fights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,748 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The Brits are still dining out on the investment from London 2012, and fair play, they are still getting some return on that, particularly in the facilities and funded training centres of excellence, but it is ebbing away.

    London 2012: 29 Gold, 18 Silver, 18 Bronze

    Paris 2024: 14 Gold, 22 Silver, 29 Bronze

    Same number of medals, considerably less value overall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,365 ✭✭✭G1032


    1500 Men's Final for me was the highlight of the games from an excitement point of view but I don't think I'll ever forget the reaction of the Italian girl when she won the Gymnastics Beam. Don't think I've ever been as happy for someone I'd never heard of before!! Outside of that, the men's mountain bike race was fantastic. As was Alfred's win in the 100m and the men's 10,000m race was also brilliant. The mixed triathlon relay was truly gripping from start to finish and Keely Hodgkinson's win was amazing. Watching Olympics since '88 and I have enjoyed this year's more than any other. What a magic 2 weeks. If the Irish girls had managed a bronze last night it would have been the icing on the cake.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,784 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    This sounds like good news - talk of increased funding for the elite athletes and for coaching too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,972 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Paris for atmosphere and intensity was one best games ever



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,671 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    I really hope we can build on this, we should really target a few key sports like Rowing, Cycling and Swimming. Would like to see a real push for field events. Looking at the medals it's an area not dominated by genetic factors. Australia, NZ, Japan, Pakistan, India, Sweden, Greece etc all winning medals including Golds. No point targeting sprint events or the 10000m.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Funding LOI academies is a no brainer for me.

    We should study other countries like NZ, Australia, GB and see what works for us.

    I still think grassroots and schools are the key but high performance is important also.

    If you view it as a pyramid, the base of the pyramid is local clubs and primary schools and the tip of the pyramid is the Olympics. Without a strong base, you've nothing.

    It probably needs a root and branch review of everything such as PE in primary school, drop out rates in teen years, encouraging adults back into sport, coaching coaches, paying full time coaches and games development officers etc...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    True. All the more reason why stats like these are pretty meaningless for smaller nations. When an exceptional athlete like Alfred comes along the stats get completely skewed.

    I see also that the population of the Republic of Ireland is used there although Team Ireland represents a larger population than that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,520 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The French taking the podium in the men's BMX race and Benjamin Thomas winning the Omnium were my non Irish highlights. The atmosphere for both was just insane. The crowds outside the Sacre Coeur deserve a mention too.

    Off the top of my head I can't remember witnessing any really historic moments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,784 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    An interesting snippet on soccer is that there is talk of Sarah Keane - the hugely successful president of the OCI - moving over to the FAI, as her term with the OCI ends soon. The rumour mill says she is interested.

    Coaching would be a big one for me. Fund them to the max and keep all the good ones in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,748 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Its about time the penny dropped with some politicians that investment=performances=feel good factor=pride=happier populace=votes.

    There is no downside to shovelling huge money into sport.

    But a little bit of that money should ensure that P.E. is available to all schools, up to Leaving Cert, twice a week before Junior Cert, and that all schools have a group insurance to protect all kids running and jumping in every setting.

    Then that every town above above 5,000 people has a 25 metre public pool, that every town over 10,000 has a public running track and indoor and outdoor multisport venue, prioritised for schools and community sports clubs. And eventually that every town over 50,000 has a 50 metre pool, outdoor and indoor tracks and velodrome, and upper end multisports complexes of the kind only seen in the cities and universities thus far.

    In Olympic disciplines, our lodestar should be New Zealand.

    Their 5.1 million population to our 7.2 million just produced 10 Golds, 7 Silvers and 3 Bronzes. An almost unbelievable return.

    And I don't want to hear the GAA argument, the Kiwis play Rugby Union and Cricket to every bit as much a cult level as we play GAA sports.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    If you count the population in NI then you have to count the medals NI athletes won for GB, so it probably balances out.

    GDP is actually a big factor also.

    Lots of African countries have never won a medal although I'm sure they've loads of athletes with world class potential. Congo has a population of over 100m but no medals.

    Botswana on the other hand has a population of 2.5m and medals a bit but they've a high GDP (for an African country) and are stable and well governed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,520 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    This might interest some of ye. Nothing too shocking but it breaks down some of the differences between the haves and the have nots.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,827 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    The Swedish Pole Vaulter and Naser breaking WR in weightlifting were two outstanding moments for me.

    All 7 medals Ireland got were great but for Rhys to get his highest ever score and do it in that pressure environment just gets nod as best for Irish.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    More likely Ff/FG/Greens looking at the US/China stats and using the gold per capita to import 1.5 billion people

    That'll shift us up the medal table.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,827 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Fai would hardly get her. It's FAI after all. They don't get the best.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,827 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    I said Team Ireland represents a larger population than the Republic of Ireland. This is a fact and not a political argument. The fact that some NI athletes compete with the British team is irrelevant to the point I was making and doesn't 'balance out' anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,520 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It's not just GAA though. We play soccer in huge numbers and have a significant number playing rugby. Much like with the church and schools/hospitals it was too easy for previous governments to let them do all the work.

    We have been a wealthy country for 30 years now though so old excuses don't hold up anymore and I think people want to see infrastructure to match this sustained wealth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    You said it in relation to medals per capita.

    If we count NI population in calculating our medals per capita, then we should count medals by NI athletes on Team GB.

    It's got nothing to do with politics. It's just arithmetic.

    And yes it does balance it out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Agree with some of this but it's a bit over the top regarding facilities.

    We don't need that many 50m pools.

    Probably one per city would be loads.

    I agree about multi sport facilities though.

    For example Louth GAA are building a new stadium in Dundalk. They couldn't share with the LOI team!?

    Facilities are expensive so we should use them as much as possible. Do Limerick and Galway really need 3 stadiums for 3 different sports? They're empty most of the time.

    I still think the key is grassroots, local clubs, primary schools.

    I think Adeleke was in school sports and beat all the boys and then was encouraged to join an athletics club aged 11. (I'm open to correction on this).

    I bet there's loads of talent out there slipping through the net.

    We do have certain advantages like a youngish growing population and also a decent sized immigrant population.

    We do have decent sports infrastructure already and good spread of clubs and whatnot also. So it's not like we're starting from scratch but more like we need to get more professional and organized.

    GAA and Soccer are definitely not an excuse but definitely they scoop up all the kids and often people don't have time for any other sports, so it does impact it negatively in that way. Basketball and rugby do also but to less of an extent.

    I played GAA, soccer and basketball so I wasn't going to do any other sports than those but I guess if I felt I had actual talent in something, I might've switched.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,019 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Getting venal old gits and nepotism out of sporting bodies pays dividends.

    🙈🙉🙊



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I think John Delaney set Irish soccer back decades.



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