Simon Harris death threat

The taoiseach doesnt deal in quick solutions. He could announce plans to build a new prison. He could approve a pay increase for the gardai. There is any number of things he could do, none of them over night solutions.

You dont need to read between the lines. I thought it was pretty obvious.

Come now, I would think there have been and will be numerous critical comments on social media concerning politicians. They range across policies to personality and so on. It's part of the modern political landscape and ignored by politicians. I take the time to write to local TDs and you just never get an answer from them if you raise objections to policy they promote. It's just blanked out.

This particular case in hand is surely no different, what differentiates it is that it's being used as a part of a campaign to limit certain types of criticism. We should always look at things in the round.

Were an open democracy with a broad spectrum of policial parties and beliefs. It's absolutely outrageous that someone would target him or his family like this.

I think he shook his tictoc at you.

Now I'm not ascribing these views to Furze99 specifically but todays right wing loons have some funny views.

One minute they're all about free speech. The next they want to burn libraries and ban books with transgender references.

When you speak with them, don't be expecting any kind of coherent ideology.

It IS different.

And no we SHOULDN'T look at things in the round.

If people make threats, there is no telling if they are idle. Look at the Holly Willoughby situation. I don't actually believe that fat loser was any threat to her, really, but he went all in on being an absolute psycho online, and he suffers the consequences.

Same too for that fool who threatened the Sinn Féin leader online recently. Never believed he would be caught, and yet the Guards had him in custody within a day or two. Bet that shook him.

You deal with cowards with maximum prejudice. You call their bluff. You arrest them and put them in front of a Judge immediately.

Do you think those 4 or 5 English rioters from earlier in the week, who have already been sent down for a 5 year stretch knew what hit them? No, they didn't. Their heads are still spinning.

You deal with this stuff with a sledge hammer and you make an example of the fools that imagine the law of the land doesn't apply to them.

If not, you get anarchy.

Unmitigated cobblers, not even on a nodding basis with reality.

Well isn't that interesting - showing true colours? What do you want - a police state. No thank you. I'm a libertarian.

As regards politicians and people in general, if you can't stand the heat in the kitchen, then get out.

you realise death threats are illegal?

That's easy to say in the abstract. When you mention the heat in the kitchen, do you feel it's acceptable that a politican should be harassed while out shopping. How about being subjected to vile abuse while stuck in traffic by a member of the public. How would you feel if someone was doing that to you? Would you deem it acceptable. Would you be weak minded for objecting?

It's replies like this that show up the "I don't condone, but........" posts for exactly what they are.

I think that the opinion polling and voting statistics are not telling the whole story. I believe that there are greater numbers either not engaging or actively disengaging from the democratic process. In the most recent local and european elections the incumbent parties spoke of their surprise that their vote share held up and how happy they were that they seemed to have received a positive endorsement from the voting public - note: just the voting public.

The problem, as I see it, is that the turnout was very disappointing on both platforms (local and european). If they think that just the number that vote are their main concern, I think they will be missing the point that there are increasing numbers that don't vote and get their news, opinions and direction from anti-social media.

The death threats come from the disaffected populace, not those that have voted for you. As a country, we need to address the increasing perception that politics isn't worth it and live streamed direct public protest action is the way to go.

Who do you vote for exactly? No viable opposition party.

My point is…. they have disengaged from the democratic process. That aspect can not be ignored by those who believe in the process. We can not continue to count the cast votes in isolation and ignore what may be an increasing level of dissent. As 'the troubles' in the North have taught us, solutions have to be inclusive, otherwise we could have a long road of a dysfunctional and possibly violent society ahead. This state was born out of violent uprising and civil war.

I agree that change must come through the ballot box, but we may not like the direction of that change if we ignore the issues that are causing the disengagement. Extremism is on the rise, here and elsewhere in the world - street protest, violence and death threats are a factor of that process. There has to be a greater level of acceptance of the issue and a willingness to address it, apart from simply telling people who now believe that democracy is direct action powered, to get out and vote. Maybe if they think that their views are being considered, they might not ever engage with the ballot box, but they might stop rioting and sending death threats.

If they are out shopping you just say hello and leave them alone.

Everyone is entitled to some downtime.

Do we think if this guy is found guilty, he'll be made an example of, to try to nip all these ott protests in the bud?

Like the guys in the UK last week, handed 2.5yrs for throwing some punches at the cops.

No they got what they wanted because of the threat of the withdrawal of their vote and through PEACEFUL protest .

The two together get results .

. If they had just sat at home giving out it would not have achieved the desired result .

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To vote for who. If you were not voting sinn fein ,the greens, ff or fg. Who would you vote for???? Explain? Im really curious.

Oh goodie. The same as always with same results. Lets see the blowholes called sinn fein. The social experiment party called the greens. Or the 2 cheaks of the same arse looking after big business called ff and fg. The options are so juicy and delicious.

A party that concerns itself with the country and its people. Not absorbed into its own ideals or outside influence would be a start. Any suggestions outside our current lot?

The army are not the Guards and the Guards are not the army. The army have no understanding of the law. They might look the similar jobs to you but are completely different. Saying that it is true retired soldiers can make great coppers in the UK and the states, its been found.

You never want to see soldiers out of barracks.