Deposit return scheme (recycling) - Part 2

It has been added to the original cost of the product.

If the 4 pack of coke was 6 euro before DRS, it is still 6 euro on the shelf after DRS.

But the total price at checkout after DRS is 6.60, 15c × 4 for the cans.

You called it a "deposit" in your previous post. The one which followed on from the one which you declared would be your last contribution to this topic. What was in your mind when you used the word deposit?

If you are not going to play the game any more that will make me sad. It's a shame for you that your summoning up of the accountancy profession blew up in your face.

I explained why your accountant post was irrelevant.

Others will understand the logic, even if you dont. But good luck anyway.

You could try checking the barcode on the Re-turn website checker.

If it's not there Croke Park owe you 15 cent and have questions to answer.

Imagine in the business world, if you issued a tender for the provision of a service, and the winning bidder stood to make tens of millions per year, as well as gaining total access to valuable recycling materials and having a captive market with no competition, your customers have no choice.

In my experience of projects, you would be looking at a minimum of a biweekly cadence to track progress and ensure things are being done correctly. All data, whether it's data you like or not, would be available at the click of a button, all numbers could be reported on in a heartbeat. Issues would be identified quickly and processes put in place to rectify them. Remember, tens of millions of euro per year.

If you can't do this, you would be out on your ear with a cancelled contract.

But of course the poor craythurs in Return have only had six months of a live system, preceded by more months of trialling and bedding in, preceded by benchmarking the best systems in the world, preceded by a public consultation (hahahahaha). I mean just because the rest of the world act like grown up business professionals doesn't mean Return have to, right?

So here we are, after all of the recent shenanigans.

What is the collection % versus sales?

Nobody knows.

What percent of collections have been recycled?

Nobody knows.

Where were they recycled, if they were?

Nobody knows.

How much do they pay themselves?

Nobody knows.

What about disabled people?

Nobody knows or cares.

Why are rhere STILL issues with broken machines, tickets not scanning etc?

Nobody knows or cares.

Why havent we an app to get electronic refund? Nobody cares.

I would be behind this fully if it was done right, but it wasnt, it isn't and i doubt it ever will be done right. Once those millions in unclaimed deposits keep rolling in, they're on a winner.

Theft, simple state sponsored theft. With the added bonus of all the environmental damage too.

You being unable to follow the deposit system does not make it a price increase.

If you lost your gas canister, would you also call that a price increase when you next buy one?

This has gone beyond the realms of stupidity and into thick-headedness.

If Nobody Knows then it is not possible for anyone to give information.

Sure all they'll every say is "due to increased costs" or some such vague nonsense - they'd never link it to being opportunistic and taking advantage of the publics confusion over the ins and outs of this scheme…… You do accept this point - right?

Are you gullible enough to think that any company would admit publicilly this?

The example you gave (which I don't remember fully - think it was some niche product) - have you gotten evidence that the price DECREASE is anything to do with the DRS?

I am certain that other posters here will give a list of price increases since the start of this year to counter any minimal isolated price reduction……

So have you any issues at all with the scheme? Do you see any areas for improvement? I find it unusal that someone, who has engaged with the scheme doesn't seen any areas for improvement from day one and even stranger still that they are happy enough to continue to let things slide until mid next year…..

Whoosh!

If it is due to increased costs, then that would be the reason. That is not a vague idea, an increased cost is an increased cost.

Of course it's a vague reason - the very fact that you accept it as a reason is enough.

Another reason to increase the price of the item is to take advantage of consumer confusion to increase profits- no company would ever admit this.

Every company is looking to increase profits - using a time of increased consumer confusion to increase their product price is a great way of doing this.

So you still haven't agreed about where the 15 cent would come from ?

Colour me shocked 😊

Simply untrue.

The 15 cent will drop for you but only if you pay it upfront on purchase. That's the only way DRS can work.

Are you leaving again ?

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