Unbelievable number of Indians coming here. Is there no limit?

I have worked with Indians for the last few years too. They were all frauds. Completely fake CVs and didn't have a clue what they were doing in work.

I work in IT too. Some are brainiacs, some are the opposite, and make me wonder how they actually got through college. I agree that there are too many though. The main problem I see is that IT companies are now moving towards outsourcing to India, where wages are much lower than here. The company I work for have done this, and others have too.

We are no longer workers. We are now all economic units. Ireland, and most of the first world are no longer countries, they are economies. If a company can get a cheaper economic unit they will. Government will point to the economy doing well, which is no use to the people trying to make a decent living wage to live here…..

Look at the state of our health system, education system etc, but the govt don’t care because the number show we have a “strong” economy.

The people no longer matter, the numbers do.

I've seen this also, I work in engineering, not IT.

There's a totally different cultural attitude to honesty. Not that irish people are all honest, but the reasons for lying and frequency are totally different. I've seen this in work, if you ask for a task to be done, typically they'll say 'yes no problem', then it'll be done badly or not at all, because they won't ask for help and won't ask for clarification on what's required.

There's a real difference between Indians educated here vs educated in India, night and day, Indians educated here tend to be knowledgeable and have no problem asking for help, more time, clarifications etc. Also the older generations are way more difficult to deal with than the younger generation. The older ones feel like they don't have to do anything at all and men tend to be more problematic than women

I work in finance and a lot of folks working here in analyst/data science roles would be indian. When I hired people for those roles here, almost all applicants were indian.
A lot of irish don't seem to have the prerequisites for jobs in pharma, tech, finance etc. I'm Irish btw before you accuse me of rhetoric.

Anyone coming here to work should be allowed to do so. The amount of indians I've met who have bought houses here and integrated is vastly higher than any other group

I work in IT, they literally cannot get Irish people (or in a lot of cases even EU people) to fill roles.

Hence why so many Indians are offered jobs and visas. The visas are generally tied to their tenure with the company and meeting performance targets etc. i.e. not being a complete spoofer.

Demand and (lack of) supply.

I interviewed about 40 people from India recently ,they had all arrived in January on a student visa , all of them doing a masters in a college in Dublin that finished in June and now they can stay for 2 years to finish the coursework from home with unlimited working hours but only 15 hrs a week while in college itself

I assumed the college was a scam to be honest especially when they all worked in the same type of job back in India

Not just difficulty finding a job, but you(and I), will be competing with them for finding a home, and a doctors/dentists appointment.

Instead of focussing on that one nationality, the question that needs to be asked is, is anyone keeping an eye on the numbers coming in?

You had your whole life ahead of you OP. What a shame you didn't take the opportunity to live abroad a couple years and experience the ins/outs of immigration...

If someone leaves their job because there's no after works drinks, maybe they shouldn't be in that job. Especially not if it's in health care.

I've worked with plenty of indians. They have been great people. Sure there's been some assholes. But I'd say no more than any other nationality. I've known plenty of Irish spoofers. And I've carried plenty of them through group projects in college. In work i never saw an indian who needed to be carried. In my current team there's two indian girls. And both are great. One of them is the hardest working person I've ever known. To the point where I actually worry about her mental health.

So I don't mind if more come over. Indians, a great bunch of lads.

I did not and won't comment on their work. I said that as they tend not to take part in social life, as they become in the majority, the younger irish nurses leave as they want craic, banter and a social life via work - it was ever thus with nursing. Due to the hours nurses always tended to socialise together

I had two seperate medical appointments last week, one with my dentist and one with Affidea for a scan, where the staff who looked after me were Indian nationals.

The nurse assisting my (Irish) dentist is actually herself a fully qualified dentist but is just waiting to pass her exams here again, so she can start practicing as a dentist herself. She was trained in the English language. Lovely lady. She told me her husband is also employed here in some kind of medical research.

The lady in Affidea who looked after my scan was also Indian, and very professional (as an aside, she was assisted by a Polish nurse).

Personally, I am very glad these nationalities are coming to Ireland to live and work, because without them our health services would be completely f*****.

I like to hear about legal, skilled migration for once. And Indians integrate well they somehow manage to preserve and celebrate their own culture while also not being hostile to others.

Though I can second the sentiment that this trend decreases wages. I've worked and talked to many Indian colleagues and they have a whole separate community here , the emigrants anyway, they live here organized in "India" 200 member whatsapp groups, separate ones based on what city or region they are from. They share jobs, accommodation, young lads come in live with family, friends, strangers, 2 to a room and 1 on the couch. That community spirit is commendable, but they are indeed up to working for low wages, and an Irish lad hoping to sustain a family or even a dignified living standard is going to struggle to compete.

And they are very much India first. If they climb to management they shoe in friends, family or even strangers off whatsapp groups before jobs are extended out to anyone else.

Estate agent I know commented recently a huge proportion of buyers in an estate he was flogging were Indian.

Working away n paying their way- kinda people Ireland needs coming here.

I know truckers, welders and mechanics were complaining 20 years ago about Polish fellas working for less. A lot of fellas got out of them industries as a result and now there is shortages now so I get where the op is coming from.

I work with a number of Indians, all qualified and competent.

We have a serious amount of chancers coming to this country seeking asylum with nothing to offer the country, that is not a category any of the Indians I've encountered fall into.

I'm as concerned about bogus asylum seekers as anyone else, but anyone who comes here legally to work has an entitlement to do so and if you want a group of people who integrate well in this country and cause no trouble whatsoever look no further than Indians, no religious extremist baggage, nice friendly people, good eggs in general.

Yep, you have no issues with their brownness at all, absolutely no racial stereotyping going on in these posts.

The bastards! Imagine them copying what every other nationality does when they are in a foreign country.

You certainly wouldn't catch the Irish at this craic in the US for the last 60 years or so, no siree!

Meat plants? Deliveroo?

Well no, not really. The relative mentioned is on good money and is not in any sort of management position.

Ah yes I forgot about those unskilled jobs.

I presume most of these Brazilians are on a student visa which I presume a high percentage are abusing this especially when it comes to Deliveroo.

FFFGG want it this way. Indians are better for our globalist neo liberal system.

The Government and media also love to misdirect blame on Asylum seekers meanwhile they open the floodgates to legal migration via some of the loosest Visa rules in the entire world. Just like the UK.

We are also now a bigger place for EU migration since Brexit.