New bus gates on Bachelors Walk and Aston Quay

The right hand turn from Burgh Quay to O'Connell Bridge will really need to be looked at carefully after implementation. Westmoreland St to OCS North is a pain as it is

The signage game isjust bonkers in Dublin. There's still poles on south William street that just say M50 and an arrow.

If you're relying on that to get to the m50 from SWS you're screwed..

It's overly complex. So much effort just to keep car dominance. That right turn from Burgh Quay to ocs is currently abused by queue skippers who fly down the right turning lane and merge left mid junction, the right turn lane is hardly used at all by people actually turning right

A car diversion onto jervis St 24hrs would be a far simpler set up

How long do people reckon it'll take for an upgrade to a proper solution? How long did college green take to go from a theoretical ban at peak hour to a theoretical ban 24hrs? Also there are other measures in the cc traffic plan.

Saw a few Guinness lorries in convoy yesterday going up Sheriff street from the docks, wonder if they're now going up the NCR and cutting back out at Ushers quay and up Christchurch into Thomas st.?

I thought I read somewhere recently hat the Westland Row stuff was put back because it was more complicated apparently. I'll see if I can dig it out

Sounds like more fudge and half measures. Placating the motor lobby.

We all know what "complicated" means here

sorry if discussed before but does this mean practically every bus time table that goes through the quays needs to be re-done?

I would doubt that very much. The running time may have to tweaked, though. If that doesn't happen and buses make it to Bachelors Walk quicker than normal, they will still be made to sit at the stop until their scheduled departure time.

I meant a proper solution to restricting cars, not a metro

Running times, i.e. the stop-by-stop timetables for each departure on routes across the network are reviewed and adjusted every so often as a matter of course (particularly when schools are on summer holidays), but Dublin Bus doesn't officially tell passengers (unlike GoAhead).

Looking at a sample of routes on BusTimes ( https://bustimes.org/operators/dublin-bus ) and comparing the timetables for Monday 19th August and Monday 26th August, I can see that revised timetables with longer running times are being implemented across the Dublin Bus network with effect from Monday 26th August, which recognise the increased traffic levels that occur across the city with the return of schools. They would have been reduced back in June across all routes. Morning peak journeys in particular get the brunt of it.

To be fair, a change in running times is actually a timetable change, as it changes the intermediate stop times along a route and should be considered as such. It can have an impact on people on lower frequency routes, and they ought to be announcing it more clearly, something like this:

"With effect from Monday August 26th, with the return of schools, revised timetables will be implemented across all routes. These changes will not affect departure times from termini, but will see times change at most intermediate stops along each route in order to maintain the punctuality and reliability of services."

Specifically on the infrastructure change on the Quays, I'd expect a change of running times for routes operating east/west along the Quays will happen at some point later in the Autumn that reflects the improved traffic flow through the area, but you'd have to wait four to six weeks, or indeed longer until after the return of the colleges to get a proper assessment of what the impact of the changes are.

As Streetlight says, in the meantime buses will probably be waiting their time either side of O'Connell Bridge until their scheduled times from the stops there.

I wouldn't be expecting to see completely new timetables with revised departure times anytime soon, as we just won't know what the impact of the changes will be for some months.

They'll complain about traffic either way. The first few days of the Capel St change got a load of ridiculous coverage about gridlocks.

Thomas St? Guinness trucks would be heading for Victoria Quay surely.

But When it's permanent there'll be proper stops and no confusion

IFSC, head for Sherriff Street, left into Portland Row onto the NCR. Only thing is that route will be used by a lot more people.

Obviously very early days and lots of bedding in to do, but so far a good few private cars are just crossing the bridges.

Did see one driver in the left hand lane on Bachelor's Walk continue on and then turned right onto O'Connell Bridge crossing two lanes. But maybe in that case there's more going on with that driver.

I heard on the radio they said loading bays wouldn't be affected, does that mean I can still drive onto burgh key to use the loading bays along it?

The only reason that left turn is still there for private traffic is because of Arnotts Car Park. It's very irritating.

And yes, I suspect O'Connell St North is going to suffer a bit. Cars from both sides of the quays can access it

Oh it allows all cars to turn left. So you now have cars allowed onto O'Connell St North from Bachelors Quay, Burgh Quay and Westmoreland St.

It's already busy enough with the cycle lane and Luas, so going to be interesting enough once these changes bed in.

I foresee bedlam at the top of O’Connell Street turning left onto Parnell St. with the Luas that’s heading for Broombridge as the yellow. Ices May be filled with irritated drivers. It’s already chockablock at times, but now?