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Store Lambs

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Yes. They get dosed on day of arrival. Going to dose again at weekend. Are mineral licks any advantage for stores?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,258 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    It's so important to get the dosing right considering the price of meal, if they're thin they should respond well to meal, and meal will have minerals and vitamins but if you dose and the dose doesn't work your meal will be wasted.

    What dose did you use/going to use.

    Alot of the dual purpose fluke and worm doses are useless for worms



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I use separate worm and fluke doses. I’m not sure of the names.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,258 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    A lot of the worm doses aren't working on farms too.

    Ad lib meal would do a good job on your lambs, it sounds like they haven't been thriving for a while, very difficult to know why they're not thriving, it could be any number of things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    could be scab they will melt if they have it i should know! watch them and see if they are scratching or turning around to bit themselves



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭memorystick


    The neighbour came down to look. He said I’ve 2 with scab. Never saw it before. Gave them dectomax. Noticed a third one scratching after. Going to get stuff for them on Monday evening and do them all. There’s only a 10 withdrawal. Thanks for the advice



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Tileman


    Generally once u have one it will spread through them so you might need to do them all to stop re infection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    do you have them on thier own in the field? you will have to do all sheep in that field, when you inject them put them onto a field or in a shed that hasnt had sheep for about 20 days then you after 17/18 days you can return them to the field they were in. the mites that live off the sheep that cause the scab can survive without a host (sheep) to live off more than 17 days , a lot will die off before this but that wont matter if theres a small percentage still living they can reinfect the flock again. i think this fact was missed years ago wwhen farmers couldnt seem to rid thier places of scab.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I’ve only 30 and they have the run of the whole place. About 70 acres. I usually house them for the last 6 weeks and pump in the meal. Try and get early grass. Might be a handy option. I’m working full time so you know yourself. It’s great coming on here for advice and learning stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,258 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    The scab cannot live more than 17 days without a host but the injected sheep can be infective for 14 days after injection, so they can infect stakes etc for up to 14 days after injection so you'd need to take the sheep off for thirty days plus. ivermectin only kills what's there , no ongoing protection

    Dipping on the other hand kills the scab in 24 hrs and protects for 50 days plus and, The scab won't live for fifty days until the sheep are clear of the dip, and you don't have to take the sheep out of the field.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Young95


    Anyone look at buying or selling store lambs yet ? Wonder what the trade for them will be like this autumn?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭razor8


    How many do you want?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Bit early for them yet but did anyone see any Mountain X or brockie type ewe lambs sold yet?

    Would imagine prices will be back on last year when brockie type lambs were very dear.

    From what I can see good Suffolk x lambs are back 10-20 euro on last year.

    Good quality Suffolk lambs suitable for breeding making around €110-€115 for 40kg. Same type lamb last year were €130+

    Not the same appetite for men given rising cost of all inputs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Ramadan from early march to early April, and Easter Sunday is on the 31st of march next year, which may provide a trade for lambs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    Im buying around 100 at the minute out of south Kerry and west cork, ill put up pics and prices/weights when i get them home. im expecting prices back maybe 10euro/head. confident enough of prices over winter and early spring. NZ lamb into EU and Uk wont be near as much as feared as i think a lot of theres will go to china still. contiued reduction oon ewe numbers in NZ still going on, no sign of reduction stopping yet. reduction in ewe numbers on island of ireland too, id say will show up big time in the census of 2023/24/25. Anecdotly how many young farmers under 40 have gotten into ewes in last 5 years ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    I got 99 store lambs last night from Kenmare mart, came from 2 seperate farms both in West Cork. 32.5 kg average weight was average 87 euro. about 15 euro a head cheaper than last year but they were got in tipperary. i will put up pics when i have them in during week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭jfh


    hi dickie10, is it through the Mart that you arranged transport ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭kk.man




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    dosed lambs for fluke last week and dipped on friday. must get a picture or two.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭joe35


    We'd never dose lambs for fluke. Dobyou think they need it. Has been a wet summer. Did you test them for fluke.


    We dosed with levicide on Saturday. Lambs were showing a high worm count in FEC. Vet said to go with levicide. How long do we leave them before we FEC again to check for resistance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    yeah within a week every year i dose for all stages of fluke, used Endafluke this year. they are coming out of south kerry and west cork mountainous terrain so they would be eating and drinking around small pools and wet marsh and bog areas on the mountain. if i didnt dose they would be some dead by november 1st, id say some could have fluke 7-9 weeks in them so another 2-3 weeks they are going to be adult fluke and start damaging them big time.

    next job is heptavac p plus all lambs . im going with one last load of by own before i do that. should have maybe 12-15 to go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    how do you go about actually taking a fecal sample id like to know for worm dose? how many sampples do i need?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭joe35


    Take about a tea spoon full from 10/12 lambs and put it into a zip locked/freezer bag. And leave it in with your vet.

    I'd have them in the pen and just collect a few samples. Or in the corner of the field even.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    Sorry can’t seem to rotate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    They were dipped last Friday 1 September, dosed for all stages of fluke a few days before that, next vaccination heptavac P plus



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  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Murang


    Still happy with Dan in Kenmare



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Do you give mineral in dose or bolus, its amazing how much a lamb can thrive once wormed out fully, give minerals, good grass and a good dip. They look nice lambs, North West where I'm from love those Brokie type ewelambs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Just watched Glyn Egan selling 170 lambs at Kenmare on YouTube.

    Some amount of sheep going through the ring there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    Yeah hes a good guy, once you tell him what your looking for. overall hes very easy to deal with.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭jfh


    bought a batch of stores , would they need clikzin this time of the year ,don't have dipping bath



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    I wouldn't bother to be honest now looks like cooler and breezier weather from now on. Just have to make sure to keep a close eye if a warm humid spell came



  • Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭Country lad


    this time if year usually spray some dip on them does the job for me



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,258 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    For animal welfare reasons I'd use a preventative rather than treating than treating maggots as they happen, also if you miss a case for only 24hrs this time of year, maggots do terrible harm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    id use click if it were me, water it down a bit. you could have maggots in mid october



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭memorystick


    What’s the trade like? They seem dear but if you bought 30 kgs now you’d have fine hoggets by February



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Do many here use mineral licks with the stores? Bought lambs from Kerry and wanted to give them the best chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭joe35


    I wouldn't use mineral licks if giving meal. I dose with cobalt but think meal should have enough of trace minerals.

    What sort of money are stores making. I've horneys here from 35 to to 40 kgs and wondering if I should hold on to them till after Christmas and put them in a shed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Tileman


    poor enough trade in baltinglass this morning. Not many makingbover the €100. Allot of light lambs 38kgs and mid 90s what they were making



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭jfh


    I gave mine welmin licks ,find them the best and get time out of them unlike the molasses ones



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Is the first feeder on top any good for feeding hoggets indoors? I’ve no ewes and have 60 in a shed. It’s the square one with a green hopper. Would they knock it over? Thanks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭joe35


    I've that hopper in a shed feeding ram lambs ad lib. No problems with it. Find it holds a large amount of meal so they don't go empty



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭kk.man




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Getting near that time of year again. Do you think after the bonanza of last year that there’ll be more customers this year? Shure it’s the handiest money that a lad will ever make!

    Going to buy earlier this year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Ramadan even earlier again next year so I think going early is a good idea.

    Red sea and war in middle east still hampering Aus and NZ carcasses comming into eu and UK, I would say they prices will be good, although not quite as good as last year as there will be alot of people having the same idea and 2025 carryover figure could be high which might suppress the price but still I think prices will be good enough once lambs are bought in at reasonable prices.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭memorystick


    what’s a reasonable price? 30 kg circa €90. That’s the budget



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭DJ98


    Ain't many stores selling over 30kg for less than 100 this year



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭148multi


    Think lamb will be scarcer next spring, some amount of breeding hoggets and cull ewes slaughtered.

    Shearers saying only the large flocks keeping numbers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭memorystick


    Lambs are still a great trade. Have many lads bought yet? is grass tight?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    I’m Co tasting Kenmare tomorrow I’ll prob buy around 150 wethers and ewe lambs . Might get a batch of scotch to keep prices down



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    Bought 200 last week mix of lanark,swale and cheviot lambs avrage weight 28kg and cost €68 mix of rams and weathers



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