Kilkenny GAA Thread

Gone travelling or working away

Michael Cody Andrew O Dwyer Luke Fitzpatrick Conor Hoban

Injured

Victor Costello Darren Fitzpatrick Andrew Fitzpatrick Shaun O Keeffe Adam Fitzpatrick hopefully some of them towards the end of the league

Blacks and Whites have been beaten comprehensively twice in their group. They've lost a few good backs so I think they would do very well to stay up.

I agree with alot of this.I don't think throwing the ball is as prevalent at club level as it is at county although it is creeping in a bit.The throw ball in hurling only stated to become an issue in 2018 onwards because of Limerick,the three worst counties for throwing the ball are Limerick,Cork and Waterford and it's absolutely no coincidence that Donal Og ,Shane Dowling and Derek Mc grath are using their platforms on tv and in the media to encourage referees to ignore throw balls because the players" are just to skilful for them to see ,there's no skill in throwing a ball anybody can do that ,the skill was executing the hand pass properly.

Referees at intercounty level have ignored the throw ball for years now and it's descended into an absolute mess,if you were to be real technical about it the rule says that the ball must be released and struck with a CLEAR striking action therefore in my opinion the onus is on the player to show the referee he has clearly released the ball and struck it with the hand.If it's not CLEAR then a referee would be well within their rights to blow a free according to the rule.

Throwing the ball and steps takes the man to man and tackling out of the game which is exactly what Donal Og and his ilk want ,they want a non contact tippy tappy 38 points to 39 points game with no physicality or defending because that suits Cork style of hurling ,before the All Ireland final he was encouraging the referee to allow quick puckouts (not allowed by rule) because in the semi final this worked a treat for Cork as Limerick had no time to set and the referee on the day incorrectly allowed Cork the quick puckouts.Hurling at the highest level is decending into basketball with sticks.

Rte love the cheerleading,Marty Morrissey having an orgasim as some gym bunny from Limerick hits a sponge ball over the bar from 150 yards.

CAmogie have clamped down on it this year and it's working

At a guess I'd say throwing the ball

Was there a masters fixture list for the club championship with dates for each round published this year? Can't seem to find one?

From start of year

Rules are being waived left right and centre, because it aids in making the game visually spectacular.

People who have never played the game gush at it all and tell everyone it's a better version of Quidditch.

But a lot of the spectacular is an illusion, a game that is being made easy by abandonment of rules. And the team/management that can best exploit the laxness in officiating will do best.

Throwing, steps, illegal pucks outs and illegal quick puck outs, ridiculous bas sizes making striking and lifting simple, all feeding into a dumbing down of the game to please the watching masses. But I'm almost certain it won’t end well.

For me the handpass will ultimately have to go I feel it has outlived its usefulness and is now primarily a tool for clever/devious coaches to gain an advantage by cheating (and let’s be clear here, instructing players to throw the ball is cheating). And maybe a yellow card for over carrying?

Some exaggeration about 10 and 13 steps and some pretty poor comments about Kilkenny players making under 17 teams of the year, I really hope the Kilkenny minor team don't care about armchair supporters being uncomfortable about them reaching a final, best of luck to the 6 underage teams in finals next weekend

I agree completely with everything else you said though

You are probably right and i was responding to all the general comments about cheating and Limerick are often mentioned in that..but in fairness the main one here was about tony kellys goal so i was wrong there..but yes all teams are ignoring the rules including ourselves..unfortunately i dont see any way in which things will change any time soon

Tommy shefflin and Adrian o sullivan are 2 names being mentioned, Tommy would be a good choice IMO.Intersesting to see who takes over.

The system that we had here in Kilkenny where you had two matches in April and one in May and then a break until September worked really well,In fairness to Croke park they did try and bring in a club only month for March a few years back but egomaniac inter county managers ruined that.

In my opinion the split season is just an illusion,every intercounty team are back training in November so the intercounty season is November to July,where as the club season is now August to October so club players are waiting nine months for maybe three months hurling if you're lucky.Club players aren't going to hang around all year for maybe nine or ten weeks of hurling we are already seeing the effects now with alot of clubs decimated with lads gone travelling or moved abroad for work.