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  • #32
    Uncle Pierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122502217#Comment_122502217

    Used to work in the newspaper industry myself, so can tell you that as regards actually approaching them with photos, there's not much more you can do. But I can also tell you the following:

    • Generally speaking, a regional paper won't pay for individual photos from what's essentially a member of the public. They'd probably give you a photo byline all right, but no payment. That's how it would operate where I worked myself.
    • National papers are unlikely to use them either. They prefer to use pics from either their own staff photographers or from an agency.



  • #33
    Woodcutting
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Woodcutting


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122502217#Comment_122502217
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122502217#Comment_122502217

    The best way is to let them know in a covering email they are copyright protected and there is a fee for each use

    Also fill in the relevant fields in the image exif data. If you don't they may argue you submitted them to be used without payment. That is why I made sure they knew they were not free and got a acknowledgement to this in writing.

    Have you tried the examiner.? They often have a large photo on the back page. In my experience papers won't reply and won't tell you if they use it and or use it again. You have to watch the papers

    Edit: sorry quoted you twice, thought it hadn't worked first time



  • #34
    Woodcutting
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Woodcutting


    @Markus Antonius

    Was the watermark all over the image? I wouldn't watermark. If it's at the bottom they can crop and if all over may not bother contacting you



  • #35
    Markus Antonius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,271 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122502786#Comment_122502786

    Watermark was right on sweetspot of each image. Any newspaper I sent images to had explanations on their sites on how to submit images (i.e. adding the exif metadata) all of these instructions were followed. I guess they just get too many shots from their own photographers or submitted by readers. Really thought the partial eclipse one would get some interest as images of this were not common given the cloud cover over much of the country and general difficulty in getting a good shot.



  • #36
    John_Rambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    There's no way papers would entertain watermarked imagery with costings for the hi res, non marked images. They'll use freebies sent in, agencies or their own press photographers but they wouldn't start paying for noncommissioned work. Look at the majority of shots of murderers these days, lifted from social media profiles.



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  • #37
    Jim2007
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122495306#Comment_122495306

    So this is a photo you have already received payment for… Then the question becomes what did you sell them? The photo, the right to one use, the exclusive right of use while retaining ownership and what can you prove.

    My brother in law is a well known international photographer and every time I talk to him he seems to be in a battle with some media organisation over this stuff. And even though he hires the lawyers he seems to loose a lot of the time.



  • #38
    Woodcutting
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Woodcutting


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122506724#Comment_122506724

    They knew it was pay per use. That’s amazing re your brother in law. On what basis does he lose, he would surely know the law?

    Post edited by Woodcutting on


  • #39
    Jim2007
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,356 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122507191#Comment_122507191

    What do you mean they knew, do you have a written document?

    Knowing the law is one thing, but going through the courts and winning is another. Most of these organisations have big legal departments so their costs per case are low. He just hopes that he can either annoy them enough that they pay him or buy something else without admitting liability for the actual infraction. Otherwise he just moves on.



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