Secondary school teacher shortage.

The government, FFG, has no idea how to fairly and sustainably scale an economy. That's why. They are a one trick pump up property prices party.

Reckon rural areas are over subscribed with teachers and large city areas have the shortage due to house shortages and prices

End career breaks and introduce a Dublin weighting.

The ability of teachers to disappear for years at a time to UAE and similar to earn big bucks and then be able to return into their job that was being filled on a temporary basis at a time when we have a shortage of teachers and a reluctance of teachers to take on temporary roles is mad.

They have had a London weighting in the UK for over 100 years, yet anytime such a scheme is mentioned in Ireland the Unions shoot it down because sure Paddy in rural Donegal couldn't be expected to do the same job as Mary in South Dublin on a lesser wage.

Teaching is a very attractive profession outside of Dublin. I know a couple of people who have changed careers to move into teaching in recent years (from consulting engineering and retail management). For a part time job it has a good salary and would allow you to buy a house outside of the major cities with the added bonus teaching jobs are country wide. However trying to live in Dublin on a teachers salary would be near to impossible as a single person I'd say.

What's preventing a change so that people who leave the country do not forfeit their job? That sounds insane to me.

Why do people think Career Breaks are the issue? I always find this interesting how people focus on career breaks as if they have any bearing on the issue.

Ending career breaks would make it worse. You'll have people having to leave entirely when all they want is a sabbatical.

One of the issues not helping with public sector recruitment is the post 2013 pensions. They are absolutely miserly. When people are facing high rents, high interest rates, increasing house prices and rampant inflation the knowledge that you also have to pump a significant portion of your income into ACVs to have any hope of have a liveable income for retirement. When I compare my pension to what my other half is getting from his private sector pension it's sickening.

I would be interested to know what it is exactly that makes people.want to leave? It's something I have considered on a temporary basis, for when I retire from my current position.

Career breaks are not a disgrace. Many in teaching take them for a variety of reasons. I know teachers who took them to take on a full-time degree (out of their own expense) or to work temporarily seconded as a language teacher in Europe. They brought their talents and skills back to their schools to resume their careers. Some teachers take career breaks to mind their children (as this is a heavily female dominated profession) and so allow their husbands to work full-time.

I also know of non-teachers in other careers who have taken career breaks from their jobs for very similar reasons.

Career breaks aren't exactly a perk anymore in teaching because no one wants to do the job in Ireland anymore. They either do a year in Ireland and head to the Middle East or they just go there directly upon graduation.

For your comfort though let me inform you that many principals (who ironically availed of career breaks themselves) are now denying career breaks to younger teachers. It's a form of revenge for that teacher leaving for the ME. By and large it makes no difference as the teacher leaves anyway.

Full classrooms, mixed ability for core subjects, accommodating various special needs, parental interference, increasing behaviour problems, absenteeism, stupid stupid STUPID requirements for CPD.

Having to be both a counsellor and a disciplinarian to kids who have been led to believe that their 'mental health' is so fragile that a night's homework might tip them over the edge.

Brilliant ideas from a management team who got out of the classroom at the first opportunity and quickly forgot what it's really like.

A JC course so broad and so badly defined that it's impossible to cover anything properly. Then trying to get these kids up to LC standard.

Parents' expectation that a child who never read a book will cruise through HL LC English.

Year heads frazzled from dealing with the nonsense that parents concoct to excuse their children's laziness or poor behaviour.

Round-the-clock contactability. An email at midnight saying "I don't understand the homework." Choose between trying to compose a reply that gently says, "Leave me alone," or ignoring the email. Either way, it's your fault and not the kid's when the homework isn't done.

That's just the day to day stuff. Never mind the really bad things that can happen - accidents, accusations, that sort of thing.

Wow. You're hard. . . . A real tough guy. 🙄

How about this?

Teachers are laughing at principals when their career breaks are refused and just leaving anyway.

But other teachers aren't prevented from getting a CID by someone being on career break. You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist presumably because you take some issue with the notion of a career break.

Why not just lower the requirements and recruit from the hundreds of thousands of newcomers into the country? I mean that's the point of them right, to do the jobs we don't want to do?

Off you go.

Have your good laugh.

Some people have friends.

Fair enough i take your experience. Previous articles certainly pointed to a “crisis” in Dublin City at least given the housing crisis.

I guess starting salaries coupled with expensive homes and rents don’t help in any part of the country - experienced people have probably made roots elsewhere and have permanent position - much harder to move around the country right now than it was.

Yes - teaching has become very complicated - unruly pupils are one thing but the there’s a huge rise in mental conditions in recent years in young people and teachers now have to manage a lot more challenging behaviours - I wouldn’t do it that’s for sure and hats off to those who still do it well

Are you sure you know what a CID means?

Yes. I have one.

If there was a plenty supply of housing you wouldn't need to do that - better to place all energies into increasing housing supply and ride it out till then - subsidies have a way of increasing pressure on higher rents anyway so really only the landlords benefit

Yes give them a CID. The CID does not have to have your old number of hours or role. You will just remain an employee (with the benefits you mention) and you would be free to move into roles as they come up. You are just not guaranteed your specific previous role.

Currently if Hazedoll goes on sabbatical for 5 years and Donald takes over her class, well Donald can get his CID during that time, but when Hazedoll come back he's shunted out of that specific role and Donald has to work with what is available when it comes up.

My suggestion would just have those positions flipped at the point of return. Donald would have his "permanent" position from day 1 (with whatever normal probation). Hazedoll takes the CID she is entitled to at that time. Any arguments against it?

it's not the governments fault. It's fault of the full time teachers and the schools themselves.

Full time teachers going on maternity leave within the first 2 to 3 years and then out for multiple years having kids and their stand ins unable to get full time contracts as they are only maternity cover.

it's a mess but there is silence on gender diversity in the education system in primary ans secondary school level.

with an easy commute to coppers. 👍👍