DF Commission Report

This stuff is hardly Clancy's doing. Its the immovable blob of 60 years of archaic and prejudicial policies.

There's a Head of Transformation there now and all of this will fall under his remit to reform, with the new CHoD and the government.

So according to the detailed Plan next month the new Command and Control system will be confirmed with new service heads and HQs. Will Sean Clancy get to be the 1st CHOD are will they wait until he is gone?

I dont know the kicking the government are giving the defence forces at the moment it could happen in the next month so they can say look at what we done.

we the government seen the problem acted quickly and solved it.

They will say they have cleared out all the problems and have put a new system in place. It would be an easy win for them going in to the summer break.

Ireland would simply have to do more from a military perspective. This is regardless whether the country at some point joins NATO or not.

How is it an easy win?

All the memo to Cabinet does is get approval (or not) for the DRAFTING of the new Defence Bill to enable these changes to happen.

There's not a snowballs chance of the new structures being anywhere near in place for another 12 months.

In fact, with an election to take place, probably in October, that legislation won't even begin (else it fall with end of the Dáil anyway) until 2025.

And even then, if Sinn Féin enter government in some form, it probably won't happen at all.

So make it 24 months. Or never.

Well the DPP has now formally appealed the leniency of the sentence imposed by the criminal court, which automatically puts a stop to any Defence Forces action to dismiss him.

They will only be able to do so, once criminal proceedings have ended fully, with no prospect of further interventions.

Latest Update. DOD SecGen remains accounting officer.

Government Approves New High-Level Command and Control Arrangements for the Defence Forces

The Tánaiste and Minister for Defence, Micheál Martin TD, today (July 2) received Government approval to prepare the necessary legislation to provide for the reform of high-level Command and Control of the Defence Forces.

The reforms will reflect recommendations made by the Commission on the Defence Forces (CoDF) including the creation of a new position of Chief of Defence (CHoD) as well as a Vice Chief of Defence and Service Chiefs for land, air and sea – Army, Air Force and Navy.

This will ensure parity of esteem across the three services and is in line with international norms. It will modernise and transform how our Defence Forces operate and will be key to how Ireland manages its defence strategy.

Welcoming today’s Government approval, the Tánaiste said: “Since becoming Minister for Defence, it has been my priority to drive forward with the changes needed to modernise our Defence Forces. The current legislation around how our Defence Forces are structured is simply not fit for purpose so I will bring forward reforms to bring it in line with the recommendations made in the Commission on the Defence Forces and also with international norms. This one of a range of measures introduced in the last 12 months that will fundamentally change our Defence Forces going forward.”

Responding to today’s Government decision, the Chief of Staff of the Defence Forces, Lieutenant General Seán Clancy said, “I welcome today’s approval by Government of the Tánaiste’s proposal to modernise the Defence Forces command and control structures. The creation of a Chief of Defence appointment is a pivotal step in modernising our Force. These reforms were recommended by the Commission on the Defence Forces, and I am confident that they will strengthen our strategic capabilities and operational effectiveness, ensuring we are better positioned to meet the evolving security threats of the future.”

As outlined in the CoDF, a new command and control structure will be introduced over time. The will include the dissolution of the current two Deputy Chief of Staff posts and their replacement by the three Service Chiefs as well as a Joint Force Commander.

In addition to the military positions, there are currently two Assistant Secretary positions as part of the Defence Board, as Heads of Strategic HR and Transformation. This new management structure will ensure that there is strong governance, accountability and transparency in terms of how the Defence Forces operate.

Ends.

Notes for Editors

• Control of the military by a civilian, elected Executive is a fundamental principle of all western democracies. This principle has served the State well and the new structures will reinforce it, with the Minister for Defence retaining the right to command the Defence Forces on behalf of the Government. While this command shall be exercised through the CHOD, the Minister will retain the right of direct access to the Service Chiefs.

• The Constitutional role of the President of Ireland as Supreme Commander of the Irish Defence Forces remains unchanged by these proposals.

• The Tánaiste’s proposal to proceed with these recommendations follows extensive work on governance and oversight arrangements, which is significant, complex and sensitive and involves a fundamental review of the current regulatory framework governing the relationship between the Minister for Defence, the Defence Forces and the Department of Defence.

• The Secretary General of the Department of Defence remains as Accounting Officer.

• The four recommendations of the Commission on the Defence Forces (CoDF) related to reform of high-level Command and Control encompass the following:

1. The creation of a Chief of Defence (CHoD), supported by a Vice CHoD, with the appropriate military command and control authority of the Defence Forces at the strategic level;

2. The creation of a Defence Forces’ Headquarters that will report to the CHoD, who will be assisted by the A/CHoD and the Head of Transformation;

3. The creation of three Service Chiefs, and Deputy Service Chiefs, for the land, air and maritime forces, and a Joint Force Commander, who should also be the Vice-CHoD, supported by a Deputy Commander.

4. The Army, Air Corps and Naval Service should become services, have service headquarters, and have parity of esteem.

• The new legislation will make the appropriate statutory amendments, in particular to the Defence Act 1954 and to the Defence (Amendment) Act 1998, in line with recommendations by the Commission on the Defence Forces in order to:

o give the Minister for Defence power to delegate Command to the newly created post of Chief of Defence (CHoD) as head of the Defence Forces;

o affirm and enhance governance structures managing the defence of the State;

o reconfigure the high level structure of the Defence Forces; and

o amend the Defence Act 1954 so as to dissolve the Council of Defence

• The Council of Defence was established by the Ministers and Secretaries Act 1924 and currently exists on the basis of the Defence Act 1954. The Council is composed of the Minister for Defence (Chair), Minister of State at the Department of Defence, Chief of Staff, Deputy Chief of Staff (Ops), Deputy Chief of Staff (Sp) and the Secretary General of the Department of Defence. There hasn’t been a requirement for a formal convening of the Council since 1987. In view of the other mechanisms that have been put in place in the meantime, it is considered prudent now to dissolve the Council of Defence.

• Pursuant to Article 13.4 of Bunreacht na hÉireann, “The supreme command of the Defence Forces is hereby vested in the President.” Under the Defence Act 1954, military command is exercised by the Government through the Minister for Defence.

The potential new CHOD is just entering leaving cert year

If you dont control your own budget how can you really be in charge. I taught the CHOD would have the accounting officer just like it is in AGS

The Dáil has approved participation in Critical Seabed Infrastructure Protection under PESCO.

Fair play to Minister Martin for this response

Military and co-operation were used in the same sentence…

MOBILISE THE ANTI WAR PROTESTERS

Of course not. We'll supply two things, money, and permission to operate within our 12ML

For the foreseeable future anyway. But it will be good to have Naval Operations at this table. It'll mean making more intelligent and informed use of the scare resources we do have.

True, but theres a general election, probably on October 25th, the first in this State since the new geopolitical reality.

Will be interesting to see how the parties respond, policy wise, and how the public in turn, responds to that.

I get the feeling there is a pragmatic acceptance of our lack of basic national defence, in the circumstances. But then, my circles of acquaintances probably think much like I do anyway, so perhaps I'm wrong.

I believe our wholly incoherent position on defence is increasingly being questioned and probed in EU official level circles. The rubber is seriously beginning to hit the road on defence policy across a number of institutions and under the new EU commission due to take office in the Autumn will be reflected in new proposals coming forward. I will be interested to see what impact it will have here. The political system here / government will be fully aware of this, but for domestic reasons will chose,to,ignore it for now at least especially with an election coming. We now IMHO have supplanted a national defence policy (such as one ever truly existed) with an infantile form of pacifism as our interpretation of neutrality. Will this evolve as the grown up conversation begins ?

All of our fleet up to the P60 class were already co-funded by the EU with common fisheries policy grants.

We may benefit in future from piggybacking the economies of scale for equipment and munitions, but nobody is going to buy IFVs, ships, and planes for one of the wealthiest nations on the face of the Earth.

Obviously the acquisition of new vessels and aircraft is going to occur in parallel with reforms and increased recruitment.

Even if we ordered the large MRV on Monday morning, it would be 4 years before she's operational. Probably longer.

None of this stuff happens in a silo. Renewal and expansion of the DF means new buildings AND new weapons AND structural reform AND improved pay and conditions AND expanded recruitment AND a deeper intelligence infrastructure AND new technologies AND a revised role in this Republic AND - almost the easiest bit - more ships and planes and armour.

Its one big bastard of a task.

Here it is.

I think if you are Civil or Public Servant you may get time off for reserve service.

It may be the hair dye soaking in to by brain but up untill 90s wasnt there some form of air corps reserve?

Why can't the Irish Prison Service train up officers from among their number to provide an armed presence at high security prisons?

Security protocols around being a prison officer are already arguably tighter than the Guards or DF, why not just enhance their own capacity and let them mind their own backyard, instead of relying on part-time security from other arms of the State, neither of whom have prison patrol as part of their core mission.

Yes, by all means have the Guards and Army trained and equipped to support serious incidents at prisons, but really neither should be involved day-to-day.

Yes, but that sounds like a budgetary problem for the IPS and Dept of Justice to me.

Everything is under control.

https://www.kfmradio.com/news/localnews/army-strength-plummets-below-6000-as-more-people-continue-to-leave-the-defence-forces-than-join/

employment in the DF is key metric. Absolute Walter Mitty talk of new ships when we can’t even crew the ones we have, new equipment when we struggle to fiield personnel for existing commitments and are scaling back on overseas operations (Golan Heights gone, no Navy Med operations this summer), new accommodation for recruits we cant attract. This needs to be tackled seriously and immediately by the Taoiseach and Tanaiste, but wait, the guff will only end when something is dropped or an embarrassment arises. Hopefully Putin might start pulling stunts off the West coast again and some multi national goes public over security concerns

As opposed to your entitled opinion? (Still laughing at you!!!)

You didn't see Ciara and Orla churning through Force 10 gales and high seas either.

At the moment, sea days are very much a function of lack of crews rather than weather.

But assuming personnel numbers can be brought up to scratch, as IPVs, the Lake Class will ply their trade in the Irish Sea every bit as much as the fishing boats and coasters that they are designed to monitor.