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Leeds United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2024/25

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  • #12452
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,023 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122494081#Comment_122494081

    Ok I changed the text.



  • #12453
    Hijpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Not been great so far.

    Doesn't look like there's much going on in mid field. Few times it's just been head down and dribble into trouble.



  • #12454
    Ceist_Beag
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    Lots of possession but not a lot to show for it. I would like to see Aaronson playing more centrally instead of Piroe to see how he goes.



  • #12455
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,023 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Boro nearly scored a second.

    Nothing to suggest we aren't a mid table side going by the first 50 minutes.

    We definitely miss Gray and Summerville.

    Can't believe Bamford is still employed by the club.

    Darlow has kept us in the game.



  • #12456
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Can see Farke not making it to Xmas, things are just not right and haven't been for a while ……can also see Sheffield utd and Burnley bullying the division to promotion like the top 2 last year



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  • #12457
    GoldFour4
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    depressing seeing us cut open with a through ball like that



  • #12458
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,023 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Bamford assist, 2:0



  • #12459
    Ceist_Beag
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    Look we know our squad is thin, tonight just shows how thin. Desperate stuff.



  • #12460
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Conceding three at home is pathetic. Doing it twice in 5 days is unacceptable. Where the hell are our defence?



  • #12461
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,023 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    3:0. As you were.

    Same thing happened in the Prem. Raph and Philips sold and we are the whipping boys.

    You don't sell your best players and expect the same results.



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  • #12462
    Hijpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Pfff.... absolute pish

    Poor every where. Boro exceedingly better man for man by the look of it.



  • #12463
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,023 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Did I just see Bamford miss a sitter there? What are the odds?



  • #12464
    GoldFour4
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    we desperately need another striker before this window closes. Genuinely can’t see the point of Bamford still being around - in on a true ball there and there was never a doubt of him not getting a shot off.



  • #12465
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    At least Hinchcliffe is happy for a change.



  • #12466
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    All any team needs to do against us is pack the defence because they'll know we have no ideas how to get through it. Our defence went AWOL and up front we were bereft of ideas. This could be a long season unless we get a couple of decent quality players in to fix the obvious defects in the team.



  • #12467
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Not a lot of point complaining about Bamford. Some idiot gave him a big contract and he’s not going anywhere else unless we pay him off. Best we can hope for is a US or Saudi club have a brain fart.



  • #12468
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,023 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122504236#Comment_122504236

    Just don't play him. He is a liability. Better off not on the pitch.

    Glad that is over. Ill watch a movie on Saturday instead. Pity the Olympics are over.



  • #12469
    GoldFour4
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122504236#Comment_122504236

    you don’t have to play him though



  • #12470
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    so pay him 70k a week to sit on the bench…….



  • #12471
    stryker mcqueen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭stryker mcqueen


    Offer accepted for rutter from Brighton in case anyone needs cheering up



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  • #12472
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122504668#Comment_122504668

    £40m release clause activated apparently. No way he'll stay in the Championship, so the board will have no choice but to go out and spend some money now, especially after tonight's shambolic display.



  • #12473
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Buy for £35M, and allow a release clause for £40m? Seems like the work of a certain brain donor alright.

    The only thing is, Rutter is so wasteful with the ball. Much as its fantastic to watch him in full flight, i was going to post about the amount of times he loses the ball, after the match on Saturday. If it allows us to buy 4 players that we need, maybe it won’t be so bad.



  • #12474
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    There might be a bit more profit than just £5m. As I recall, the £35m included add-ons. No idea how much of the total they constituted, but I'd sincerely doubt that any of the targets were hit as they probably assumed we'd still be in the PL. And the low release clause amount relative to the fee we paid may have been the only way we could get him to sign in the first place.



  • #12475
    Carcharodon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    Haven’t started to follow things closely so far, clearly not an ideal start, I still have faith in manager, I just hope owners will back him, losing all our best players, need to buy or loan some legit talent asap, not sure how we stand in the ffp area but obviously if Rutter goes then we surely have all that to reinvest which is a lot in championship



  • #12476
    GoldFour4
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    It’s up to Rutter now apparently.

    Can’t see him staying but does love the club apparently. If he goes then I can see Gnonto being out the door very quickly after.



  • #12477
    championc
    Registered Users Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭championc


    Szmodics anyone ???



  • #12478
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,023 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Thats it then.

    49ers stripping our assets. Although there is nothing they can do about release clauses if the player wants to go.

    Gnonto next.

    I am sceptical that a lot of this £100 million would be going back into the Leeds team.

    We will do well to stay up now.



  • #12479
    Neewollah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭Neewollah


    Very worrying start to the season and new owners not making life easy on themselves with lack of quality replacements to players we're losing. Next 2 weeks will tell a lot as to what their real intentions are.



  • #12480
    GoldFour4
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122504494#Comment_122504494

    the contract should be a sunk cost from the clubs perspective and they should be looking to get rid of him - not playing him just because he has a large salary.

    Look at Jack Rodwell at Sunderland. If the player doesn’t cut the mustard you don’t play them for old times sake.



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  • #12481
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    We were terrible last night and now Rutter is almost certainly gone. I think now is maybe the time to be a little bit worried.



  • #12482
    Ceist_Beag
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    There's no need to panic here. Last night just showed that we need more players, something we all knew already. Maybe Farke felt the need to highlight this early doors, who knows what conversations are held behind the scenes.

    Yes Pat showed why he isn't good enough but he was far from alone last night. Wober certainly did nothing to win over fans! Nobody played well so it just shows that once we go beyond the first 11 we're struggling.

    One point I saw made that has merit is that our back 4 have never played together as a group but also our RB/RCB and LB/LCB combinations have never played together either so it will take time for these lads to gel and get to know each other better. Farke needs to trust them by sticking with them for a period even if results aren't going well.

    Georginho going will be a massive blow. All we can hope for is that this has been anticipated and replacements are lined up and discussions have already taken place. As Neewollah said, the next two weeks will show what this board are all about. I'll hold off judgement until the window has closed.



  • #12483
    Eggs For Dinner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    Rutter agrees to leave Leeds



  • #12484
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,294 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505160#Comment_122505160

    I think you are giving the owners far too much credit here. They categorically stated that they wanted the squad finished by the start of the season to avoid what happened last season as that ultimately cost us promotion. So far this transfer window has been an unmitigated disaster.



  • #12485
    Seathrun66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,905 ✭✭✭Seathrun66


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505160#Comment_122505160

    How dare you be so rational.

    Though hard not to feel glum as Rutter also departs. Club again leaving it late to do business. Hardly in the 49ers interest for us to languish in the Championship.



  • #12486
    Hijpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Season over and the transfer window hasn't even closed yet.

    You don't replace four of your best first team starters with 15 days left to get deals done.



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  • #12487
    newhouse87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Can only hope board knew we would have to wait and hold tough to get decent prices but have replacements lined up chosen by farke. A 20goal + striker would be a good start.



  • #12488
    Ceist_Beag
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505208#Comment_122505208

    You may well be right, I'm trying my best to give them until the end of the window to repair the damage done to the squad. Like I said, only then can we be clear on what we have for the season ahead. But make no mistake, I'm as concerned as anyone about how this window has gone, I've said it a number of times. We need to replace like with like and so far we're miles off that. Georginho was also a hugely positive character in the squad, he will be hugely missed, moreso than Cree I feel. The 49ers have two weeks to give us some hope for the season.



  • #12489
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Talksport saying Leeds offered Rutter a new deal, would that not have been an idea say a month ago or even 1 week ago what's the saying about after the horse has bolted, not all too fussed he's brilliant and bloody awful in equal measure but losing him and Summerville while playing Bamford and Geldhart last night sticks in the throat a little

    But all these players jumping ship first opportunity to mediocrity I'd be inclined to say **** em, Brighton/Brentford/Bournemouth? even Archie Gray couldn't wait to get to Spurs who last won a major trophy in black and white, the PL really is the be all and end all no matter the level in it



  • #12490
    newhouse87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505634#Comment_122505634

    Money is all the most of players care about.



  • #12491
    Hijpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Mediocrity in the prem is better than mid table in the championship. It's about progressing their careers, premiership is the next step up in the English leagues. Naturally players want to progress to the bigger stage, they don't want to be wasting time, stagnant, giving the championship a go for a few years.



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  • #12492
    Ceist_Beag
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    One thing I will add, if Farke still thinks Piroe can replace Georginho in the 10 role we're doomed!



  • #12493
    newhouse87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Who is the new phil hay lads?



  • #12494
    GoldFour4
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505902#Comment_122505902

    he’s a massive loss. Could rely on what he knew at the club and now we have a few people who are often proved wrong.

    I’ve unsubscribed from the athletic with him gone from covering Leeds so at least saved a few euro



  • #12495
    Ceist_Beag
    Registered Users Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505910#Comment_122505910

    Same here, subscription is up next month and I've cancelled the renewal.



  • #12496
    newhouse87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Have we any twitter person similar to him?



  • #12497
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505982#Comment_122505982

    Adam Pope is probably the next best, but really nobody has been at the level of Phil Hay.

    In other news, Kalvin Phillips is joining Ipswich on a season long loan. I really feel sorry for Kalvin the way his career has gone. He made a move that, to be fair, few players would have turned down. But then finding himself competing with Rodri for the same spot meant there was only ever going to be one winner. The loan move to West Ham was disastrous, probably due to a combination of lack of game time and lack of confidence before he moved. To now end up at Ipswich is a bit ignominious. Hopefully he'll have a good season there and it might put him in the shop window for a permanent move to a bigger club.



  • #12498
    newhouse87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122506245#Comment_122506245

    Pope is few leagues below hay.



  • #12499
    Hijpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,893 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Supporters trust have been in contact.

    Basically said the decision is Rutters to make, the trust is annoyed, like everyone, that they sold big players with no replacements. That the picture painted by Parrag at the start is completely different in reality. Nothing will be communicated to the fans from the club on the transfers/players until after the window closes.

    Incredible.....



  • #12500
    newhouse87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122506466#Comment_122506466

    American owners, naive of us to expect anything different.



  • #12501
    Jimmy Two Times
    Registered Users Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Jimmy Two Times


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122505902#Comment_122505902

    New Phil Hay is Nancy Froston. Huge boots to fill and hasn't exactly hit the ground running. She always seems to a bit behind with the news. Graham Smyth in the YEP isn't much better and I'm not a big fan of Popey to be honest.

    All went to pot when Phil left but towards the end you got the feeling that his sources in the club had dried up a little and he wasn't able to break the big stories the way he had been previously.

    I'm never one to get too excited one way or another when it comes to players arriving or departing but this latest one has hit hard. The circumstances are shocking if the written word is to be believed but as someone says, everyone wants to play in the Premier League and it's so hard to compete with that.



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