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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - threadbans and mod warnings in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,078 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Something that strikes me as weird and weirder every time I hear it is the eerie singsong cadence Trump uses when he says, "all of a sudden she made a turn and she went - she became a ♪black person♪"

    @7:24, for reference.

    Did anyone else pick up on that, or is it just me?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,493 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Handy way to transfer money from one of your PACs to one of your company or personal bank accounts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,726 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/putting-down-rabid-dog-stefanik-demands-ny-official-resign-trump-shooting-remark

    It's interesting the way some GOP people are getting all upset over remarks a out Trump getting shot at, do any of them remember the remarks he made after Nancy Pelosi's husband was assaulted in his house.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,775 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It's likely meant to be a watered-down version of Trump's statement that he could walk onto 5th Avenue and shoot some-one and people would still vote for him. White probably recognized the chance that if Trump were to carry out such an act on 5th Avenue in NYC, that any unfortunate soul who caught Trump's eye as a shooting target may not have been seen by Trump to fit what Trump considered a Republican appearance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,078 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Trump's followers have tried to kill Nancy Pelosi on two occasions. She was a prime target for them on January 6th and then also the break-in. Trump has done absolutely nothing to quell the ire MAGA feels toward her, instead making her the centre of many a Twitter tirade, and when his followers broke into her house and gave her husband injuries which he is still recovering from, Trump did not extend an olive branch. He joked about how the attack wouldn't have happened if they'd had better walls around their house.

    Trump has openly fomented division his entire political career. He has fed anger and in turn fed off it. He has demonised his political opponents to an absurd degree, regularly referring to the Democratic party as 'radical', 'leftist', 'Marxist', 'Communist' etc. He made up a conspiracy about the 2020 election and then sat back as a throng of his supporters ransacked the US Capitol. He has, in rallies, told supporters to 'knock the crap' out of people who might throw something at him.

    The idea that we should feel any particular sympathy for him when it's no longer a game is pretty ludicrous. It served him right to get a personal taste of the shít he's been stirring, and nearly having his head blown off has evidently spooked him, which would go a long way to explaining his rather bare rally schedule right now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,629 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    He says "black "with the same contemptuous tone that white South Africans use.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    No, but hypocrisy and stupidity are the key cornerstones of the current GOP so you won't ever hear anyone in Trump's circle apologise for that. It's always all about the Donald, and to hell with anyone that gets in the way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,629 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,619 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    What does it say? Instagram want me to sign my life away to see it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,629 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Tiktok is the same way on mobile, insta and tiktok links on desktop work ok



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,449 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I don't think there's words to describe this man at this point tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,726 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,629 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    another round of the greatest hits. again 🙄

    The Trump campaign had billed the Republican presidential candidate’s rally in Asheville, North Carolina, on Wednesday as a significant economic address.

    But Donald Trump struggled to stay focused on topic during his speech, and continuously veered off message to air grievances against Kamala Harris and inflammatory attacks on undocumented people.

    Here are some of the things Trump said at the rally:

    • Trump said that his advisers had wanted him to focus on economic concerns, but he said he was “not sure” he agreed that the economy is the most important issue of the election.
    • Trump accused Harris of being “not smart” and of having “the laugh of a crazy person”.
    • Trump said he would slash energy and electricity prices “by half”, but added: “If it doesn’t work out, you’ll say, ‘Oh well, I voted for him. I still got it down a lot.’”
    • Trump said he would open up federal lands to drilling and ease the permitting process for pipelines.
    • Trump appeared to dramatically escalate his calls for imposing tariffs on all US trading partners, suggesting import duties of up to 20%.
    • Trump invited on stage Scott Bessent, the Wall Street investor seen as a possible contender to be treasury secretary in a second Trump White House.
    • Trump claimed that his interview with Elon Musk was “one of the most successful shows ever done”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    He literally said he doesn't think the economy matters that much. And couldn't stop bemoaning her laugh, and fawning over her Time magazine cover.

    Some 'address on the economy'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,726 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    His problem is he is probably unwilling to learn basic details about the economic issues. It's too easy to speak drivel and ramble on about past grievances.

    The debate will be interesting in September. He is down to a 5 point lead qith 5% undecided in Florida where DeSantis won by 20% two years ago. Its not in play at the moment but it means they will need to spend there make sure they hold it

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,775 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious




  • Registered Users Posts: 16,625 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Well I'm sure potential Trump voters know at this stage they're not getting Milton Friedman.

    But

    I'm thinking there could be the makings of an economic package in this lot that might be sellable to floating voters

    • Trump said he would slash energy and electricity prices “by half”, but added: “If it doesn’t work out, you’ll say, ‘Oh well, I voted for him. I still got it down a lot.’”
    • Trump said he would open up federal lands to drilling and ease the permitting process for pipelines.
    • Trump appeared to dramatically escalate his calls for imposing tariffs on all US trading partners, suggesting import duties of up to 20%

    Obviously he's way overselling and probably hasn't mastered the details yet. But it's ultimately the big picture that matters in a populist election campaign. And those broad policy proposals are likely to go down well in the Rust Belt…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Why didn't he slash them in half when he was president?

    Why did he ban offshore drilling when he was president?

    And tariffs were a disaster that he bailed out in part with with soybean socialism.

    See he's trying all these grandiose promises, like his run in 2016, but he no longer has the benefit of the outsider, he's an incumbent, he's been in that office, and he has questions to answer for his tenure. In 2016 he could get away with grandiose claims because there was the benefit of doubt from lack of substantive evidence to form opinions to speculate on his performance. But now he makes grand promises and we have his record of failures, in 2016 he promised to eleminate the national debt, instead he added $7+ Trillion to it.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,625 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Well he never built the wall either but he seems to have an in-built edge with voters on immigration.

    So maybe all he needs to in those areas is find a few aspirational proposals/slogans that hit the spot with the voters and he might be able to claw back a couple of points in the polls..



  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭Maxface


    There is a bill there ready to go that both side agree with, Harris just needs to go with that angle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,860 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Immigration.

    And the economy.

    People believe Trump is better on both.

    It's incredible really.

    If you look at these independently and on the surface, he's constantly banging on about immigrants. They think - he is stronger on that. What they don't know is that his whole "build a wall" solution was boll0x, he didn't do it and he didn't get Mexico to pay for it. Plus, as said above, he tanked the legislation to help the border issue.

    In relation to the economy, on the surface he looks like a successful businessman, but they forget or don't know his business failures, his business fraud, his history of not paying workers/contractors, his stubborn refusal to understand how tariffs work, his tax cuts only benefiting the wealthy and the trillions he added to the deficit.

    That's why headlines are so important. There are a large portion of the general public who don't read below them, so correct phrasing matters.

    It's no wonder the uneducated are his target group.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,944 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Clips of an interview with Adam Kinzinger (Republican & 20-year veteran) defending and explaining Walz's military record and retirement



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,078 ✭✭✭✭briany


    To be absolutely fair to the boy, he said that he wasn't criticising Walz's service. He claims he was criticising what Walz said about his military service, ie the supposed quote from Walz about carrying weapons of war during wartime - with the criticism being that Walz wasn't deployed in a combat zone, so the Trump campaign are trying to say Walz lied with that claim. This is where we may get into some semantics, because Walz was stationed in Italy for a time during the occupation of Afghanistan in a support role. If he'd carried/shot a gun during that time, does that count as carrying a weapon of war in a time of war, or do you have to be where the action is?

    In any case, if this is all the Trump campaign has to bite into, they don't really have much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,520 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,709 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    And that's going to be his undoing.

    IF he could keep it simple and talk about specific things like the economy, cost of living and immigration he could make inroads.

    BUT he can't, because he's a rage filled malignant narcissist who has to make everything about him and he can't move past his mile long list of enemies and petty grievances.

    People have heard it all before and just don't care anymore.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,625 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    he's constantly banging on about immigrants. They think - he is stronger on that. What they don't know is that his whole "build a wall" solution was boll0x, he didn't do it and he didn't get Mexico to pay for it.

    I think most Trump-leaning voters are dimly aware of that but they still sort of buy the signals his campaign is sending out on the issue

    talk about specific things like the economy, cost of living and immigration he could make inroads.

    IMO if he hits the right points on those issues the voters he is targeting will be willing to look past this stuff

    he's a rage filled malignant narcissist who has to make everything about him and he can't move past his mile long list of enemies and petty grievances.

    After all that was a big chunk of his 'campaign' in 2016 and 2020 and he still got nearly 50% of the electorate to vote for him both times



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,078 ✭✭✭✭briany




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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,775 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    From the pen of Drew Sheneman, editorial-cartoonist with the Star-Ledger, New Jersey.



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