Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Dont zero graze myself ,but cant understand why it is seen as a cause for tb as compared to silage bales or pit

Lad says cows can't pick the best bits compared to grazing, lad was saying to me. Secondly more grass from far away been consumed by the cow

Many reasons why tb has got worse in the last couple of years but a lot of it is occurring inside the farm gate and can be reduced if many farmers changed things a little you would reduce your risk big time

Feeding calves in fields turn the troughs upside-down when calves have eat

Clean out water troughs regularly

Reduce overcrowding in sheds in winter

Provide enough grass to cows and calves/yearlings all summer if you can't do that their is a cattle mart in every town in Ireland to solve the problem I am all the time looking at hungry cattle which in turn will lick the ditches and pick up every bug and these hungry animals have low immune systems and for some strange reason these herds keep going down with tb

Their are many other things like infected wildlife, dept not overly interested in solving the problem vets making a living out of it, possibly zero grazing,some farmers in denial about the fact that their is an infection in their herd and just seem to have 1 aim which is to get a clear test and bury their heads in the sand again and go back doing the same as they always did

This appeared today. I find it depressing to be putting winter grazing plans ito action when we're (in my mind) in still med summer..

In any case, how many use these targets and work by them? We don't extend rotation until mid September hitting about 25 days by then. We can be quiet a bit off thses targets but find we hold much better regrowth from shorter rotationswhen added to grazing better quality, I reckon is just as viable a system. Any views?

Just catching up on pervious posts in relation to building work without planning. Is this a ticking time bomb? with the ever increasing storage capacity requirements are ppl taking the risk to avoid objectors.

Even ppl who are actively engaged by the dairy industry and endorsed to promote our green sustainable image; are flaunting the rules with zero planning.

Comical, considering said person has aspirations to progress in the IFA.

On slurry and storage. I heard someone on podcast say a separate tank will be needed for digestate returned from an AD plant and that tank would have to be covered but not by slats. The separate tank made sense but not the covered bit as the gas would already be gone from the spent digestate.

He got the wording/spelling corrected before you replied

Moved away from these targets to shorter rotations here and a lower farm cover aswell.

But we are always finished grazing here by the 1st week of November so never make much sense for us to have a huge amount of grass on the farm by the 1st of October

Ye these dates of having first rotation done by early april are an annoyance when land is saturated. We all know our own farms, mine loves a drought. Plan is when cows go out they hopefully aren't coming back in til mid or late October

Absolutely and we'll said .the **** that's been spouted on here the last few days makes the resident troll look half normal. The department do not care about eradicating tb plain and simple do not pass go on that statement. There's no possible way to make a reasonable argument against them not wanting it gone. If they wanted to rid the country of tb it would have been done 40 +years ago ....and if eradicating didn't work we would all be vaccinating for it . There's no restrictions on people leaving the country as an export and 90%of the country was vaccinated for tb at some point.

Iagreewith the ration and silage point ,but the extra work to get grass into cows in spring is not pointless work.its definitely thankless work but it's nevertheless necessary if your going to knock milk out of cow's (in a half normal year)

U save alot on silage getting them out early and also their health and feet. Triggers grass growth also

What’s the beer like to night with the lads on the bar stool. I have yet to meet any farmer that is happy to have TB in their herd and also wake up there is no financial gain out of TB and that is a fact.

He got no compensation for his milk ...none zilch Nada zero no reddies. Etc etc he's been taking the mick out of you

I am only quoting what some people who cannot add talk about on a daily basis