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Vince McMahon "retires" *Megathread* Mod warning added in post 437

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,270 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I'd say Vinnie is powerwalking his way through the good old days on Peacock on a daily basis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,984 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    It is kind of sad Vinces legacy is fucked now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    It is not sad at all the man is a F’N monster who deserves to be in prison till he dies and then burn in hell for eternity.

    Regards,

    P.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,607 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    You can find it sad that a legacy is gone and history is tainted, without feeling sorry for the man himself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Petermc83


    His behaviour is despicable but without him, there is no professional wrestling!

    He brought it out of the territories and made it global.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    F’N hell I’ve read it all now without him there would be no pro wrestling!

    Thats going down the Fed rabbit hole with a huge tin foil hat on and only thinking pro wrestling is WWF/E.

    Regards,

    P.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Stephaine McMahon along with COO Brad Blum and WWE President Nick Khan and Brian Nurse former general counsel and head of WWE’s legal department have now been named as the previously unnamed corporte officers mentioned as the key figures in the WWE sex trafficing lawsuit.

    The company is rotten to the core.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,681 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'm in shock that Brock is back in WWE on Raw next week



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,607 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    So, the new allegation is Khan and Nurse helped Vince employ the woman, knowing full well her main qualification was she was Vince's lover.


    It does not accuse them of knowing the level of abuse she was suffering, though. But if they hired her because Vince wanted her close to hand due to their activities, that actually is a legal misdemeanor, from what I've read.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,066 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Brock vs Vince in a bag of poo on a forklift match for Mania.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Do you have confirmation of this? Like a link?



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Looks like PTH just dropped an image and never shared the source with it...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,301 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Endeavour really need to clear house and take a long hard look into Triple H too to be sure.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Quick reverse image search on google shows it's a graphic from July 2023


    Haha classic PTH😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Right now it's looking like there won't be single 'original' working there by the time this saga ends, and what I must wonder to myself is whether this is something that Emmanuel had planned all along. The timing of it seems very convenient.

    I see Paul Heyman is getting inducted into the HoF. I have a suspicion that it could be Heyman who gets the job as creative head if Triple H is forced to suddenly retire. He may be far enough from the controversy (by a degree of millimeters, admittedly) to just about hang in there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,984 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Probably wasn't the only one haha

    Sorry about that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,681 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,607 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    ive seen people bring that up a few times in Reddit, and the response is always he was never actually taken off it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    Triple H must have gone blind and deaf a decade ago not to know what was going on with his wife and father in law and with other executives in the company he was an executive in.

    Regards,

    P.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,301 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    There is no chance in hell (excuse the pun) that Stephanie and Khan didn't cover up for Vince previously.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Stephanie's absolutely up to her neck in the seediness of WWE, I would say. I know Nick Khan has been named in the lawsuit in some way, but I would be surprised if he's as involved as everyone else, though I obviously cannot rule this out. Nick Khan is an actual proper business person, as opposed to some depraved wrestling carny in a suit. If he'd seen that kind of thing going on, I'd imagine his self preservation instinct would have kicked in forthwith and gotten well the hell away from it.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,866 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    I think people need to not read too much into certain things and tar everyone with the same brush. Being named in the lawsuit does not mean you are dirty. Vince it really seems is an evil auld b@stard and obviously Johnny Ace and co seem very complicit and willing to turn on each other and all get pulled down.


    I think I heard Kahn for example is implicated and the worst allegation against him is that Ms Grant says he said he knew very well who she was and was cold towards her when she introduced herself. I would not suggest she lied about this but really that could mean something like he knew she and Vince were up to innapropriate stuff behind closed doors and (perhaps didn't know more /to what extent because) he didn't approve of it and wanted no involvement with it.

    I'm not defnding anyone here but I would guess the behind the scenes has been modernizing at a breakneck speed (because this industry has been in the stone-age and closed off from the public for so long) the past few years and certain dinosaurs have probably been thinking they were just turning a blind eye to some of Vince, that auld rapskallion's, affairs and perhaps not knowing that what was going on was actually far far worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Unfortunately for Mr. Kahn, this kind of situation is almost binary, meaning no degrees of the thing will be tolerated. If he's in any way linked to facilitating what allegedly went on with McMahon and this woman, he'll be shown the door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,229 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    It's hard to believe that the likes of Stephanie and HHH didn't know about Vince and his assistant. Think about how people talk and gossip in work. You have a young, presumably attractive, assistant hired for a bogus job. You can only imagine the whispering and bitching going on about her in that office environment. They'd have to have heard something about it.

    The only thing they can plausibly deny is they didn't know the level of debauched shít he was doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Yeah I'd agree and this WWE was also a publicly traded company this time and Khan was answerable to the shareholders of that company and if he knew the job created for the woman was a fake job then he is also tangentially invloved in facilitating the abuse.

    So later on as Co-CEO with Steph and one of the people tasked to investage claim against Vince he knew the job he signed off on was a fake job yet he since found no issue with that investigation and reinstaged Vince.

    So he was completely incompetent for the position he was in (Which I highly doubt) or he turned a blind eye which is even worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    Doesn’t look like Ronda is holding back in her book about Vince, Johnny or Bruce.


    Regards,

    P.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod: deleted a crass post and a response to it there. No need for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭The Moist Buddha


    i only asked a question, a yes or no answer would have sufficed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Why does "knowing" about McMahon giving a fake job to his lover make other people criminal as well?

    Its not giving his lover a job that was the problem, it was the coercion and illegal crap that happened behind closed doors.

    I know a guy who gave his nephew a cushy job, do I become a criminal if it turns out there was something dodgy going on between them back at home?

    Lots of people will know McMahon was involved with this woman, but relationships aren't illegal, just knowing about it doesn't mean they were involved. For example, if Mahon told his PA to book a hotel room, then later abused the woman in it, is the PA a criminal for booking a hotel room for what she thought were two consenting adults?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,324 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Just had a quick look at what she said since it's a bit soon after the recent allegations to have a book out. But seems she's just criticising him and the company over the years.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭SteM


    I heard a recent interview with her and she calls the WWE a shitshow but she didn't clarify in what way exactly. My guess is there'll be very little criticism of the WWE in the book but she'll bury them in any interview she does.

    She joined the WWE in 2018ish didn't she? It's hard to believe that being a wrestling fan she didn't know what McMahon was like before she joined, people were talking about him for years.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,607 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    It actually is a legal misdemeanor if they facilitated giving someone a job purely because Vince wanted his bit on the side close to hand. As far as I know, especially because of it being a publicly traded company, you can't just hire your lover into a position she's not qualified for. It's not the most egregious of crimes, but it is something you're not allowed do in the business world. It's not that they knew. It's they actively facilitated it, in a very problematic manner.


    And it's probably for this exact reason, where it opens you and the business up to loads of other issues if and when it goes wrong, that you can get in legal hot water for it....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,007 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Behind a paywall though. Not too many viewers there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    Good to see the media keeping what Vince and others did in the spotlight.

    Regards,

    P.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    Vince has sold his remaining shares in WWE / TKO and for the first time since he bought the company from his father he has zero % ownership.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,984 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    It's mad and something we never would of predicted 5-10 years ago. Really thought he'd die on the job

    Any truth to the 'setting up a new wrestling company' talk ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,119 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    No idea tbh but I very much doubt it. At his age what's the point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,984 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    His ego is hurt and will out to 'kill his own creation' or some bollocks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    Maybe his mind is on not spending the rest of his natural life in prison for being a sex trafficker.

    Regards,

    P.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,165 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I think one of the prosecutors said their may be additional victims? Vince will need a lot of money to get out of this and even then its not something that he can clear his name overnight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,254 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Vince's name may become so toxic that he's never able to do business in the States at a high level again, assuming he even beats the charges. He could, however, do something with the Saudis, who couldn't give a **** about how women are treated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,984 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Sounds likes he's not in the gym lifting huge weights anymore

    https://www.webisjericho.com/vince-mcmahons-health-is-reportedly-deteriorating-fast/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2T6GonnCueNRrtaB2-ajiA9ok3QqzyFEdd_NB_rIL0gKVDQeiNsf20hFw_aem_GYLXZ-m6swvzM2VNkv9dNw



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Petermc83


    surely with all the steroids hes taken over his life, his body must be gone to shite!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,324 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I'm sure like all workaholics, once done working, they lose their purpose and go downhill, unless he decided to take up gardening or something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,066 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Interesting to see who else this brings down. Its far from over. 2025 could be a massacre in WWE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    I hope he is in plenty of pain and is suffering horribly.

    Regards,

    P.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭The Moist Buddha


    the amount of STDs that man must have had in his lifetime must be crazy, adding the coprophilia fetish too it and there's no surprise he's ill . dirty dirty man



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,937 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I’d say it more a case of Vince trying to get it out there that he is to unwell to stand trial than his health actually deteriorating.



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