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New bike lane being built at the arse end of skehard road. What's the point?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    '

    All of this has been obviously drawn out on a computer somewhere - yet no account was made for the large Double Decker Buses that use this road' - except you had just said that the bus used the old line, so the driver was in the wrong, no?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭65535


    There are 2 lines still on the road - this morning a Driver decides to use the middle (old) line to come towards me making me stop on the road until they saw what they were doing.

    Nowhere in above sentence do I mention a Bus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    you mentioned buses in the paragraphs before and after the incident you described - its not out of the question to presume you were talking about a bus driver here also



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,028 ✭✭✭xabi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    It's a similar situation where I live in Dublin - cycle lanes squeezed into road space rather than grass verges being reduced. It's a chicane now with lanes running in and out of each other, not enough room for buses to turn, bus stops on islands out from the footpath to accommodate cycles lanes, roads narrowed so much that two buses can hardly pass each other etc etc. Getting on a off a bus is now more hazardous. You can't overtake a bus now either in many cases when it's at a stop because of these changes.

    I blame the Greens and whatever idiots the council employ to design these things. None of them have a clue.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,842 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Regarding cycle lanes, generally in Cork, I really can't get over just how badly designed and conceived almost all of them are. If cycling I rarely use most of them as they give cyclists less priority they would have on the road and they constantly feed cyclists onto footpaths and/or are situated such that pedestrians constantly walk in them. Others are so short, you wonder what the point of them are. Add in zero enforcement for parking in them, too.

    They are almost all worse than useless in that they annoy both motorists and pedestrians and have virtually no benefit to cyclists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Well I passed today and the new cycle lanes were parked in on Ringmahom Road and The Maples. So they’re next to useless and the whole scheme isn’t done yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭scrotist


    Agreed. It's my conspiracy theory that the council gets money for every meter of cycle lane added to the city. Maybe some kind of EU "green initiative" money. So they just throw it anywhere to get this monetary award.

    "Let's add a few meters there in front of the lamp post. Great idea, that'll get us a few more bob"

    There's a 5 meter stretch of cycle lane on the bridge by the opera house. No idea how you're supposed to use it. Nearly killed myself the other day trying to make my way over to it, only to find that it disappeared after 5 meters.

    Imagine people from developed European cities seeing this. They must really think we are dumb as hell.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,842 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Then there's the Merchant's Quay beauty. It goes behind the bus stop, where most people are waiting for the bus, who if they aren't standing around on the bike lane, have to cross it to get the bus. Then by Mary Elms bridge, it turns into a shared pedestrian and cycle lane incorporating a pedestrian crossing in a very confusing manner, to finally leave you abandoned on the footpath on your bike at the end of merchant's quay. I used it once and never made that mistake again.

    I agree that it just seems to be a box ticking exercise without any real thought for cycle lanes actually making things more convenient for cyclists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭DylanQuestion


    Cycling from the city centre to Douglas is always an experience

    It’s fine until you get to Copley Street when there’s a significant wait to cross. Then you need to wait again at South Terrace. When you’re going up Infirmary Road, you have to watch out for cars turning onto Old Blackrock Road. You have a cycle lane until High Street, but then you need to get into the traffic lane which isn’t easy when it’s busy. Then you need to get around the cars outside the hospital, which isn’t too bad. But there’s a tiny cycle lane in front of Tesco. It’s pointless going in it as you need to get out 10 seconds later which involves yielding, but you feel bad for not using it if there’s a car behind. The lines technically tell you to merge onto the footpath and then get back onto the next lane by BelAir, but that’s risky given how narrow the footpath is and it’s on a bend so you can’t see pedestrians on coming. Then you have another tiny cycle lane by Bel Air that is pointless to use as again you need to yield to get out of it 10 seconds after you get in. From Cross Douglas Road to Rosebank you have a tiny bit of white line to make you feel secure. You have a good cycle lane then all the way into Douglas, except for outside the Briar Rose. The red resin is gone and the lines have completely faded away, so it’s often parked in at school times. Then when you get to the AIB, the lane starts to get narrow and people drive in it. You’re then dumped out at the messy junction of Douglas Road and Well Road. Which is always annoying as the footpath under the bridge is like a runway it’s so wide. They should continue the cycle lane through the junction and at it at the pedestrian crossing as at least then you have a safe place to yield. Despite the width of Douglas Relief Road, there’s no cycle lane bringing you to Maryborough Hill’s cycle lane. From there it’s fine until you get to the N28 on ramp, but again you’re dumped out into an awkward and busy junction with a really bad road surface. It’s not fun


    All of this is better than nothing, but so many of the lanes are effectively useless and clearly box ticking exercises. It was clearly designed with the least amount of disruption possible to drivers



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,842 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Yeah the lane up Southern Road is one of the few that seems useful (if cars or vans haven't driven over the poles to park there).

    I disagree that these efforts are better than nothing. If there was nothing there, we could hope for a functioning cycle system that makes sense to use, sometime in the future.

    As things stand, there's a sense that they've done enough and drivers can bitch about cyclists not even using the existing lanes, so why bother building more?

    I really cant get over how consistently not fit for purpose the vast majority of these lanes are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭Acosta


    The the general attitude to installing cycling lanes, from what I can see, is to put them where they can fit, not where they're needed. They often appear in wide, safe roads, then disappear once the road narrows and there's no hard shoulder. Utterly pointless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭scrotist


    Latest update of the year long operation bike lane.

    This guy is sweeping leaves one by one with a shovel. Bike lane still not ready to use.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭scrotist


    Flattening already laid and flattened tarmac. I think they laid and flattened it before the summer. Can't really remember, it's all a blur.

    Whoever these guys are, they're milking the council for every cent.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    Because they're designed by people who don't use them, despite the fact we pay for a Sustainable Travel officer in City Hall who is employed full time and appears to do nothing except show up at the odd event for Bike Week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭scrotist


    Happy new year. Still ongoing. The project manager would be shot if this were in China.

    Two bike lanes a few hundred meters long. 1 year + of work.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭scrotist


    Still building this fcuking thing. I started this thread in April 2024.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭scrotist


    Great day for it.

    FYI the empire state building was built faster.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,959 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    That's insane...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭scrotist


    I'm not joking. The empire state building was built in 410 days or just over a year. This **** thing is going on for close to two years I think. A tiny stretch of road.

    And it's not a fucuking metro system. It's a couple of bike lanes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,959 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Same near me in Dublin. Cycle lanes that don't join up. Awkward connections from path to road etc. We've about 5 roundabout beside each either and each one handles cyclists differently. Cycle lanes of a few feet. No lanes on the busiest sections. Massive lanes in the middle of nowhere.

    Must be filling a quota.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭scrotist


    I have a tinfoil hat conspiracy about the cycle lanes in cork. I think the council get money per kilometer of the road network with a bike lane. So they just throw bike lanes anywhere to get free money.

    There's no other way to explain the bike "network" in the city. It's a box ticking exercise and somebody is making money from it or getting a promotion or something. Meanwhile cyclists (like myself) are cycling on a footpath because the bike lane is on the other side of the road and it's only 10 meters long anyway.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,228 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I have a tinfoil hat conspiracy about the cycle lanes in cork. I think the council get money per kilometer of the road network with a bike lane.

    nothing tin foil about that. it's pretty much true.

    IIRC wexford county council painted a 'bike lane' in the hard shoulder of multiple roads and claimed they'd provided dozens of kilometers of bike lanes, without actually providing any infrastructure ata ll.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭scrotist


    And probably got a big cheque from the EU for that.

    These lads on skehard road are milking the council / EU dry. I need to set up a construction company.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭scrotist


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    OP here. Go back and read my very first post...

    If you're too lazy to check:

    "There is literally never a soul walking around this area. What a waste of money.

    The only people who will use this bike lane is the travelers. Not joking, they are the only people I see on this road driving the sulky things around or whatever they're called."

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