Couples on 107K can’t afford a home

Incentives are bad, especially if there is a middle man involved. The middle man sucks it all up.

It's the same with Solar Panels, my dad ordered 2 online for his boat, I think they were €100/200 each, (he's a spark so he could install them)

Lads installing the same panels are looking for €750 per panel installed, it's outrageous. Obviously there is additional equipment required for an Panel install, but for 10 panels with no battery you're talking about €7,000-€8,000

#imtryingttorunabusinesshere #makehaywhilethesunshines

People coming here isn't the problem. The population has been steadily growing for decades. The problem is successive governments not scaling infrastructure and services as needed. We have a wide range of problems that create a cycle of being outpaced by population growth.

1. Councils don't have much control over planning, government is heavily centralised and decisions made on a national or even regional scale may not meet the needs at a local level.
2. An Bord Pleanála has far too much control and again behaves without really considering local impact and regularly overrules council/local government approvals for developments on suprious grounds.
3. A lot of the political class are landlords/land owners. It is my personal opinion that at least some of them don't see the need to tackle problems in the property market as it benefits them.
4. The HSE is top heavy, it has been for decades. The quality of healthcare here is excellent, the problem is availability.
5. Governments are often fixated on plugging holes and appearing to be doing something so when the next election cycle comes around they can "look busy" when in reality we need long term plans that span several Dail sessions, regardless who is elected into power.
6. We need decentralisation.

@circadian

People coming here isn't the problem. The population has been steadily growing for decades

Migrant population growth is a huge problem. For example a baby being born will in most circumstances live with their parents, they don't need a new dwelling, they live with their family for 18/25/30 years depending.

When I migrant arrives they need a dwelling, immediately.

Population growth isn't detailed enough to explain what's happening.

In 2023 there were 57,373 births, 35,549 deaths, and the population increased by 86,614

So (roughly) the number of migrants that arrived here is approx 65,000… in one year (A lot of these could be Irish people returning home from places like Australia). That is huge. it's over a 1% increase in the adult population, a 2% increase on the urban population, which is where most of them want to live. (Half those numbers if they all have kids)

If they have the right to be here, then I am absolutely fine with that, but the powers that be need to make sure the states infra can mange the extra people.

Approx 1.5 million Irish born people live overseas. Maybe if government had have supplied services for the population born here, there wouldn't be an issue?

Yup! 100% they do and Japan really screwed up (I think there's an element of racisms there if I'm honest, I've been there).

It just needs to be managed and planned to some degree, and right now there no meaningful planning and it's certainly not being managed.

And, if I were single, I'd have bought a small country cottage somewhere for a lot cheaper too. I agree, this "can't buy a house" crap really annoys me. Since I'm still in my 30's too it's not like I'm a boomer 😁

Well it will take them 8 years to save the deposit instead of the 4 it's takes the couple who could move in with there parents.

Has a deflation in property prices ever happened on a planned basis? Haven't property prices globally generally risen?

I agree, housing needs to be more affordable by the way, just interesting to see how to manage to increase supply enough to ease on the demand side in Ireland.

I never suggested they do. I'd be fairly certain that at least 90% of Irish emigrate because they want to.

And this has worked at reducing property prices in other large cities/countries?