So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX **Threadbans in OP**

Define 'Hate Speech'!

https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/08/15/ireland-to-clamp-down-on-social-media-companies-refusing-to-remove-hate-speech

• “Most of the tech companies probably will honour this new code of conduct from Coimisiúin na Mean because they will have to and it’s backed up by the Digital Services Act which is an EU-wide law with very large fines," Adrian Weckler, Technology Correspondent at the Irish Independent, said.
• “There a few outliers which local politicians here in Ireland and across Europe up to and including European Commissioners have taken aim at. The notable one is X,” he added.

If the UN can't decide https://www.un.org/en/hate-speech/understanding-hate-speech/what-is-hate-speech

However, to date there is no universal definition of hate speech under international human rights law.

Are we to believe Ireland and EU Commision can finally put a definition on it? Concerning if they do, they will also be ones to enforce censorship and moderation of the platforms.

Disclaimer: - Shared a tweet, not an endorsement of the 'X' account.

Also could 'X' work without 'recommender systems'/algorithms?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41456017.html

In January, a survey by the Irish Council for Civil Liberties found that 82% of Irish people want “big tech’s toxic algorithms switched off”.

The NGO ICCL lobbying our politicians.

Is this attack on social media by our and UK politicians, just a deflection from more serious matters?

Rogan is a hack, he still thinks Alex Jones is some reputable source of information, he more or leas tried to rehabilitate him after the Sandy Hook publicity. He should be on every anti-drug advertisement going. There should be a bullibility scale named after him.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-joe-rogan-talks-authenticity-joe-biden-s-state-of-the-union-address-amid-allegations-pre-recorded-speech

Elon Musk is attempting to sue advertisers for not wanting to advertise on his platform.

Accounts like this one (with 95k followers) pumping out pro-Hitler propaganda are the reason that no reputable company wants their adverts appearing there:

And don't fool yourself into thinking that Musk's Twitter isn't aware of this account, after all it's one of millions on the platform right? Wrong. This account posted the following tweet

Twitter users reacted collectively and added a Community Note

Somebody in Twitter decided to remove that Community Note.

So somebody in the company had a look at that account and thought "This all seems fine, and I'm actually going to side with them on this and effectively encourage them to push out even more Nazi-loving content".

Not to mention the time he said his friend's wife was a teacher in a school where they had to put a litter tray in the girls bathrooms because a student there identified as a cat.

Which turned out to be something Fox News were trying to claim was happening in numerous schools but turned out to actually be schools having littertray-type stuff in their classrooms in case people are trapped there for an extended amount of time in the event of a school shooting (because America). So Fox News backtracked and stopped mentioning it, and when Rogan was asked about it he mentioned he was trying to get clarification from his friend's wife but she actually no longer worked at that school and couldn't get in contact with anyone who still worked there.

Rogan is an absolute idiot. The trouble is he used to know that and could actually have decent conversations with people where he tried to learn more about something. But the more popular he got the more he thinks he's the smart one, and his research (aka google until you find something interesting and already aligns with your own opinion) is comparable to actual facts.

I posted screenshots. I didn't link to the account. If people really want to find accounts like that then they'll find them very easily on Elon Musk's twitter

It's not difficult to find accounts like that. I'm somebody who reads the replies under tweets. From there you can click on peoples profiles and that's how I often find accounts like this.

Before Elon Musk took over it was extremely difficult to find this kind of content. That's because after the first complaint some human would see it and the account would be suspended. Whatever department did that kind of job has been gutted under Musk.

No, I haven't changed any settings. I didn't have to jump through any hoops. I didn't even have to use the search function. I found these organically one or 2 hops away from tweets along the network tree away from tweets in my own timeline.

The reason I'm posting those vile images in this thread because I want people to see what unrestricted speech on social media ultimately leads to. Are they jarring? Yes. Disgusting? Yes. Clearly Ignorant? Yes.

Free speech absolutists like to focus on the "speaking truth to power" aspect. The thing is Musk has actually banned activist accounts in many countries that are speaking truth to power at the request of authoritarian regimes. Meanwhile in a liberal democracy with established civil rights what those absolutist are left arguing for is the right for cretins to post memes feting Adolf Hitler.

Every site that stops moderating content eventually just becomes a place full of Nazi memes.

This is what you want. You should own it not hide from it.

I want people to see what unrestricted speech on social media ultimately leads to.

Every site that stops moderating content eventually just becomes a place full of Nazi memes.

This is what you want. You should own it not hide from it.

Never said that is what I want! I said before I'm not against the DSA in principal, but concerned that it may go to the extremes on the other end.

I sometimes read replies to tweets, but rarely go to trouble of clicking on the profiles of random accounts.

Impeccable timing - Peter Thiel is Rogan's latest guest.

Agreed. Once you stick to your Following account, for the most part it's fine. That said, the increase in hate content on the site means an increase in outrage engagement farming which means an increase in people you follow reply tweeting or screenshotting that content to post about it, thereby feeding said outrage engagement. So there has definitely still been something of an increase even on the Following tab, but at least you have some control over that rather than the crud it tries to feed you on the For You tab.

US Congress didn't like Mr Breton letter so replied.

So they don't like the interference in US politics.

As @Harika tried to point out below the house is controlled by republicans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives

https://nypost.com/2024/08/16/us-news/eu-plot-to-silence-great-americans-like-elon-musk-blasted/

“In furtherance of our oversight, the Select Subcommittee has examined how other governments, including the European Union (EU), have sought to censor speech online,” one of their reports noted.

While members of Congress cannot investigate foreign governments, they can defend American companies and protect them by publicly pushing back against censorship.

Congress doesn't like EU censorship. Wondering how there viewpoints hold up if Trump gets elected.