So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX **Threadbans in OP**

There is a long ongoing discussion if social media like X is a publisher. If you see them as this, they are liable for the content on their platform. Not even the Daily Mail would put up the garbage that Elon shares, as they would be sued to the ground.

Waynegb88 not subtle...

Anyway should not have pleaded guilty. Examiner today mentioned that the UK have better understanding how to deal with such rioters/misinformation breeders than Ireland.

I meant

Secondly, British policing culture has far more experience and history with the type of public unrest which caught An Garda Síochána so unaware late last year. The approach across the water was unequivocally heavy-handed, as were the sentences which followed the rioting

And the Wayne, isn't it from the handle itself clear where this goes? Like how more not subtle do you have to be? Adding AH to it?

The X-odus begins

Take being a keyboard warrior out of the equation, is 3 years justifiable for goading and encouraging rioting centred around racial hatred? The fact that it was done online imo has no bearing on it being legal/illegal, if its illegal to do or say in public it should be just as illegal to do and say online, the punishment should be at least the same and possibly more as you are going to reach more eyeballs online

Also of course someone with child images should be jailed for longer than 8 months, you are setting up a straw man by trying to compare the two. They have nothing to do with each other beyond you trying to go "well what about this."

@VinLieger Sorry I was just trying to compare the sentencing with a recent case. Any way he has a criminal record for his careless tweeting. Glad I don't tweet controversial stuff.

Here is an example from the same Judge. 'Sjölin Knight' : -

Paedophile who told 13-year-old he would take her virginity is jailed

A homeless man who was arrested in Skegness after sending sexual messages to four people who he believed were under-age girls was today (Mon) jailed for 14 months.

It is scary that these people and the reaction by the UK, is stripping down civil liberties for everyone else.

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/misinformation-is-hard-to-stop-when-the-truth-is-almost-impossible-to-spot/a2073304520.html ~~ Archive

• Instead of dealing with the asylum crisis — and all on whatever side of a political divide acknowledge it is a crisis — they think regulating online speech will stop people from thinking there is a problem.
• But still Breton feels the need to threaten to start regulating what we can hear or read on the internet in Europe.
  It infantilises us that our ­masters think that we are not capable of thinking for ourselves.
• Handing some agency the job of being arbitrator of the truth is asking the impossible. And you don’t need to be a conspiracy theorist to know that governments are prone to misinforming. Our own did so during the marriage and care referendums.
• Democracy needs people to express unpleasant views. Suppressing them doesn’t stop those views from existing and at least we might be able to address some issues if we know they are there.

With an open platform unpopular expressions and views can be seen and reacted on. Shut it down/over restrict will just push the content underground and to platforms, not so open. (Dark Web)

Try googling 'Digital Censorship Act' and see the results. If Simon Harris and co, are successful in getting Musk to pullout/shutdown 'X' here (eg Brazil), it effectively would shut it down for EU as International HQ is in Dublin. Some would say 'good riddance', but what about the Jobs and TAX revenue if other tech companies do likewise.

As someone who's life was decimated by online "arbitrators of the truth", I live for the day that these people are held accountable for their actions. I'd champion having them all locked up in cells with pedophiles and rapists.

I don't think you understand how lies and slander, fake news and defamation affects lives as you appear to be constantly promoting freedom of speech over and above the legal, moral and human implications of a self governing lawless society.

I just can't go there with your brain is obviously being spoon fed everything from twitter, with points that have no bearing in reality.

The entirety of the commission's stance is stated here. They're preliminary findings. These all seem like pretty mild and reasonable criticisms of Twitter. Basically you seem to be actively annoyed that a massive multinational is expected to be more transparent etc.

The commission recently informed X of its preliminary view that it is in breach of the bloc’s Digital Services Act (DSA), arguing that the social network “deceives” users with its blue tick, used to verify a user and give them special status.

“Since anyone can subscribe to obtain such a ‘verified’ status, it negatively affects users’ ability to make free and informed decisions about the authenticity of the accounts and the content they interact with,” the commission said.

It also accused X of failing to comply with rules on advertising transparency and failing to give researchers access to public data.

The commission said it was also continuing investigations into X’s practices around dissemination of illegal content, and how well it combats the spread of fake news.

Trending on UK twitter today is people posting/pinning the below to accounts a bit like the facebook trend from a few years back that were not allowed to use images posted, etc. The disclaimer will not protect these people if posting controversial stuff. "Similarly, copy and pasting a disclaimer doesn’t change the operation of incitement of hate crime offences."

“If Elon Musk doesn’t comply with our laws, the Union will close 𝕏 in Europe” 一 Sandro Gozi ~~ Italian site

That got a response

"Freedom of expression is sacred and any attempt to curb it through pressure or threats is an attack on democracy. The statements of Sandro Gozi, secretary of the European Democratic Party, are simply unacceptable." —@FratellidItalia Account ufficiale di #FratellidItalia. Presidente @GiorgiaMeloni

It is a pity because I liked Gozi from the debate in may.

Also just for the record here, I'm proud to be an advocate for 'Free Speech', but does not mean I approve or sanction the abusive use of the privilege by criminals, trolls, thugs and online abusers. They do more damage to the liberty of it.

https://www.lighthousecommunity.global/post/when-the-freedom-of-speech-becomes-an-excuse-for-abuse

• Freedom Of Speech Doesn’t Mean Freedom Of Consequences
• Freedom of Speech Comes With Responsibility
• Free Speech Requires Responsibility & Honour

Was thinking of not posting today, because of the negative reactions to my posts. People making the comparisons I'm spoon fed from twitter, must also be using it to make that conclusion. Ironic in a thread about it.

(Didn't notice you looking over my shoulder to see what I read/interact with on the platform)!

So the revelation here is that social media platforms aren't exempt from following future regulations?

@Babyreignbow No need for the apology, I hit a nerve with you and also sorry for that. I already admitted been influenced by all forms of Media MSM and social. ~ previous post

@fullstop Mentioned before I have not look at his account, because I don't want to feed the algorithms. I'm not going to post his tweets. @Brussels Sprout shared some more of the content

Surprised to see that this vile account has actually been suspended now.

I guess glorification of Hitler was just a smidgen too far even for Musk's Twitter

Some people are complaining about the suspension!