Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

What you're proposing is illegal and discriminatory though.

Anyone who comes to Ireland must be afforded the same rights and equality in the eyes of the law that you or I have.

You're not allowed to selectively choose Nigerian and Filipino women.

Why not have men here instead? Why not have Islamic men? If they happen to support Islamic groups that hate the west, who are you to make accusations?

A modern version of "who will pick the cotten" , some Irish people think they are "Temu Billionaires" ;-)

The open border to the UK will cause massive problems I think.

Exactly. Healthcare in Ireland didn't start when mass immigration arrived. They say our healthcare will collapse without immigrants. What they mean is "we've run these jobs into the ground and so forced out many Irish qualified to other countries thus leaving us dependent on immigrants".

I was in hospital for a while without the use of my hands, the guys that deliver my breakfast did not speak English and would drop the tray in front of me and leave, then due to carers being overstretched nobody would Come to feed me, then yer man would call back and take my tray without even asking why it wasn't touched 😀😀

I do love African and Indian nurses though, lovely people.

They were never right wing in the way that is usually understood though - more like a 'rural Catholic conservatism' than anything in common with, say, the Nigel Farage / GB News crowd.

Yup the Governments mouth pieces label anyone that has concerns about immigration as far right/racist. It's text book by this government, scare mongering and deflection.

It's a very smart move by the government but there's cracks showing, the Irish people may not openly protest on the streets in very large numbers but your local politician will hear it on the door step and boy they'll be some kicking in the general election.

We see it in the polls, immigration will be a huge talking point during the general election.

I heard a very insightful phrase describing majority of these illegals.

"Welfare tourists"

It's bang on isnt it, most of these people are illegal immigrates that come to Ireland for the nice benefits. Lovely hotels, lovely food, 38 euro, your clothes washed, medical card etc etc. God it's no wonder they come here isnt it.

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Warned: "Most of these people"?

Generalisations don't help your argument.

Mount street bridge - its back looking like a shanty town, tents inside the fencing.

Rather than getting involved in constant arguments in this country about racism and refugees I think we need to actually decide what we want the future of this country to look like. What should the population be? Are we happy to go down the same route as England and have a heavy population density and gain the economic benefits that comes with a larger population or do we value the less hectic, strained life that living in a lower density population allows.

Some people have bandied about figures of 10-15m people eventually living on the Island. Is this something we want or is the constant chase for economic growth and personal financial growth worth all the downsides that come along with it.

We will always have a duty to take a certain amount of refugees regardless of what we choose but I think a conversation needs to be had as to what we as a nation want it to look like in 20-30yrs. Asking the question as part of an election manifesto isn't enough, as it gets diluted with all the other topics of the day. I think there needs to be a specific vote about the direction we take. It will form our future in regard to what we as a people want and democratically decide once and for all the will of the people.

Irish referendums are only held on matters that require changes to the constitution. The constitution says absolutely nothing about immigration or asylum seekers, so there is nothing to be amended - it's solely up to the Dáil to legislate on asylum / immigration laws going forward.

Thats my point "we" have not been asked what we want. Its been levied on us and we just have to accept what happens. At election time, 10 other issues are higher priority and we don't decide of immigration solely. To be honest we need to go more to a swiss style where big issues like this are put to the people rather than having the individual beliefs of a Taoiseach or high ranking minister set our course.