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  • Registered Users Posts: 378 ✭✭highpitcheric


    Asking who wants another lockdown on a Sunday night.

    (edit) Ev-diddly-everyone.

    As for what went down with the cv19 lockdown, if you have a look at what previous pandemics have done to whole continents it wasn't such a bad investment.

    It was insurance. Do you feel like a (edit) silly goose … for paying car/house insurance and then nothing happens, oh what a fool to pay insurance and not even have fire. (edit) I sure diddly hiddily wont be doing that again.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    I didnt say i didnt agree with a lockdown initially but its the extent it was done to here.

    It just highlighted the poor health system we had here. And the nodding heads kept agreeing with it. Thats my point. If it happens again im pretty sure getting people to be so compliant will be very hard. I can tell you that much.



  • Administrators Posts: 14,263 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    This thread is not about Covid lockdowns



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,051 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Any fans of ISIS should be airdropped in to the nearest kip their brethren inhabit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,090 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    What database did you expect them to be checked against?

    They are checked to ascertain if they have already claimed asylum in an EU country.

    The SIS system checks for outstanding warrants etc or missing persons in the EU countries.

    They are obviously checked against pulse system here, in case they were previously in the country.

    If it become a necessary or needs for an investigation, Interpol can also be consulted, which has happened resulting in someone using a false name having his true identity uncovered.

    What else would anyone expect? There is no world-wide database of fingerprints for any reason. And even if there were, for previous convictions alone, having a conviction is not a barr to travel.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,920 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    We had a fella on the run for murder in Zimbabwe who fled here and was walking the streets.

    I have no doubt anyone looking to flee and heard about that would be coming here.

    We literally have no idea who is coming here.

    That is biggest threat to our countries safety.

    We had a few scumbags overrun the capital city a few months ago, a fella freely going around driving into gates a few weeks ago.

    People burning library books and causing trouble at immigration accommodation are idiots and deserve to be jailed.

    They are however not the biggest threat to the country.

    We have seen terror attacks all over Europe and when we start to see them here, we are in trouble because we won't be prepared to deal with them.

    It really is frightening times ahead for this country, if we continue as we are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭cher nobyl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,648 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    It's absolutely amazing that some choose not to see this danger. They label anyone with any kind of concerns as a racist or tell them they are imagining things. We have the dregs of other countries entering and we have no way of knowing who they are what their background is.

    I'm all for migration when people have something to bring to the table in terms of skills etc but we shouldn't have to take the rapists and murderers too. It needs to stop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,470 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    The big bad foreigner coming over here to corrupt Irish youth and cause chaos…

    Maybe ye need to find another source of news other than Gript and facebook

    The Irish birth-rate is below our replacement rate btw, 1.7 births per female at the moment, this means, without immigration, our population will get older, and there'll be nobody here to wipe your arse when you get to your dotage (or cover the cost of your pension (private or public)).

    We need immigration, and immigrants need somewhere to go to build better lives

    Obviously we should not tolerate any kinds of religious extremism or violence from anyone in this country, regardless of where they are from originally, so as part of a modern diverse and multicultural society, we need to organise our society to support people of all backgrounds to have successful rewarding lives here instead of giving in to the forces that try to pit working class people against migrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,920 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    I won't bother with your opening two paragraphs.

    People are discussing people coming illegally which is a threat to the security of the country.

    I don't know how what is estimated to be 30,000 per year going forward of mostly males is going to do towards our birth rate.

    Considering they are coming here looking for handouts again im not sure how they will be paying our pensions.

    The billions spent towards these males could be used to subsidise childcare costs, reduce tax, both which would be more likely to increase the birth rate, well unless men can start giving birth then anything will be better.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels


    And the answer should be to make it easier for Irish people who want to have children or more children to do so.

    Not to import tens of thousands of males who are not to pay our pensions but to take from an ever dwindling pot.

    Perhaps a small part of the billions currently hosting the guests invited by Roderic and made welcome by Helen, could be better spent of a tax break for workers, or a certain amount of free childcare per week to allow parents to add to their family and still work ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Yvonne007


    I would thank that post twice if I could.

    A working couple on a modest salary can not afford childcare as it is. The cost of childcare is absolutely criminal and that, of course, prevents the average irish couple from having large families.

    To suggest that "well we need to bring over immigrants because we aren't reproducing enough" without even attempting to address the issue is quite frankly absurd.

    Yes, some Irish people scam the system and have children seemingly just to get extra welfare/house, but the majority of us that play by the rules just get shafted. But the answer is to get our house in order before we open any sort of floodgate to "help" our aging population.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,834 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    And build more affordable (or even, whisper it quietly, social?) housing, preferably reserved for younger couples and which cannot be bought up by businesses working multiple short term/Air BnB rentals.

    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls@UNSRVAW "Very concerned about these statements by the IOC at Paris2024 There are multiple international treaties and national constitutions that specifically refer to#women and their fundamental rights to equality and non-discrimination, so the world has a pretty good idea of what women -and men for that matter- are. Also, how can one assess whether fairness and justice has been reached if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,648 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    The govt. seem well able to throw up modular homes for refugees at a cost of 200k per unit yet are more than happy to see taxpayers not being able to buy and stuck in the rental market. I wonder why.

    It's government policy that is promoting right wing groups. Whilst I and many more do not condone riots or violence I absolutely see why there is such discontent amongst people.



  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭2Greyfoxes


    That sounds a bit of a Left wing Socialist idea… didn't you get the memo, any criticism of migration/asylum seekers is most definitely Far-Right.

    Choose a lane!

    I jest, but yeah, seeing how rapidly governments across Europe have been at housing and providing aid, while we hear talk of a housing crisis for the last decade is going to get a lot of people riled up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,920 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    If you want to have multiple children in Ireland then go on the dole.

    If you want contribute to society and be a good citizen then you can kids and be broke.

    You would think incentives to help hard working people have kids would be a sensible approach.

    Obviously importing 30,000 males a year will solve the crisis instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,918 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    It's hard to have them think otherwise when their wealth depends on them not considering it.

    Things like that are just problems for the lower orders as far as the progressives are concerned .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,090 ✭✭✭suvigirl


    Which people coming illegally? I'm not sure why the big issue is asylum seekers, when absolutely anyone from the UK or EU can come live here, there is no 'vetting' done. They could have multiple criminal records in different countries, that doesn't appear to worry those who seem to think asylum seekers are the only possible terrorists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,470 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Where is this '30000 male immigrants' factoid coming from?

    There were over 140k immigrants into Ireland last year, mostly from Ukraine, which would have included a lot of women and children



  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭susan678




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  • Registered Users Posts: 27 CookingGuy


    I had a pretty substantial lunch today, nearly fell asleep afterwards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,396 ✭✭✭corner of hells




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,648 ✭✭✭Gusser09


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    Do not discuss a case that is currently before the courts

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,553 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    This argument is often used, that we need immigration to fund future pensions, fill jobs as the population ages, but is this not in reality, a never ending cycle?

    Today’s immigrants will need future immigrants to fund their pensions and look after them in a generation or so.
    If capitalism wasn’t a ponzi scheme based on never ending growth, we would be in a better position to successfully recalibrate to a smaller population, like we had in the recent past.
    For one thing we might save ourselves billions in fines by meeting our emissions targets.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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