Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

fair point .

I would imagine its basically rounding the troops and good for moral in the party before the last push. i just dont think it has any effect on the outcome but thats just my opinion.

The point is not that there isn't the time for things to change it is whether Trump has the ability to change.

He has shown nothing in the last 8 years to suggest he has the ability to adapt. He has one way. Punch down. Attack and belittle.

That isn't working atm. It might, but current evidence suggests it won't. So he needs a new approach. The last few weeks have, if anything, seen him double down on his strategy rather than looking to change.

Yesterday he posted fake Taylor Swift pictures and a video accusing Kamala of sleeping her way to the top. So no evidence of change there.

The polls are not the problem. The gaps are within MoE in most cases. The issue is that what can Trump do to reverse the momentum? He has had his conference. Had the assignation attempt. I don't see where the positive news comes from.

There is little doubt that Trump will score some hits, but he seems incapable of sticking to any one message and so any bump will be short lived as he creates yet another gaff.

An appeal for rape and an election interference case is unlikely to win him votes with undecideds. Those who it will likely influence are the people who are voting for him no matter what. For others it's simply drawing attention to how unsavory he is.

The court dates might help him a little, depending on how he handles it I guess. If he leans into his boring old complaints about how the judges work for Biden etc…that likely won't do much for him.

I had worried before about how a conviction would be spun by Donnie if he was leading in the polls. He could have easily spun it as "Election Interference" and "the Dems trying to steal the election!!!1!". But now that everything turning into such a very public failure for him, I suspect that this line of attack won't resonate as well when it looks like he will likely be beaten anyway, conviction or not.

While I would agree with most of what you have said, I strongly disagree with the momentum being against Trump. Harris hasn't really been able to differentiate herself from Biden to the average voter. Yes, she has much more appeal to the left, but I think this will be at the expense of of the center and center-right democrats. Outside of the age issue, Harris carries all the same problems Biden had, including Israel-Palestine.

I strongly doubt Middle America will see much appeal in voting for either.

You'd have to demonstrate that this actually leads to a tangible exodus of companies and I'm doubtful if that's particularly true. Meanwhile Trump has already praised Musk going up against unions and firing whoever he wants. So I'm not seeing any indication that he's better for the future of workers.j

Plus increased taxation can have knock on impacts in payback to the average person.

Trump is a convicted felon etc but none of that which is in the news for the last few years has had an effect on his popularity. the election is still 50/50. it is being completely over estimated the bearing trumps demeanours will have on the outcome of this election, voters dont actually care either way. Trump will be headline news 4 weeks out from the election and is reflective of that famous Oscar Wilde quote. it will not harm him anyway.

America is screwed either way, but in very different ways, depending on how you want to be screwed.

Screwed by being led by a ticket that is veering its party ever further towards full-on socialism, or screwed by being led by a narcissistic strongman wannabe with the moral decency of a cabbage.

the fact that Kamala has been able to get away with doing no political interviews or outlining any real policies until now is a testament to just how bad the Trump campaign is, and how utterly ludicrous he is.

i mean this - if the GOP could have even moderately reformed and got away from him, Kamala would be toast. she is utterly vacuous without a shred of genuine likeability, while her running mate seems like he's insane. but the GOP didn't do that, and so we have what we have.

the choice Americans have is an utterly lamentable one. it really is.

well you obviously didnt look to far, look at the last 2 pages of this thread. you will see plenty of argumenting/debating.

It's largely moving the goal posts when you abandon your previous points.

you are misrepresenting what i said. i said trump has plenty of time for a strategy with Harris and it was the op who brought up trumps trials not me - i just answered saying he might get a bump from it and he might not. i have no idea what will make undecideds vote either way most likely the economy.