(Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself?) Any update?

It's a pattern of behaviour which is the issue. What certain contributors want here is to be able to make statements and not be asked to support them with evidence - they want that to be part of the charter. Why ? Because they know their positions are not evidence based and never will be. They want protection.

"Group A says something, Group B shouts back, state of ya and the pitchforks come out."

This is a reasonable summary. One of the issues troubling boards though is that Group A says something, Group B shouts back and after a while we soon see posters in Group A being warned and then banned. Group B then carries on yapping on whilst suppressing any further dissent from their views. This is facilitated by moderation.

It would be far better to let both Group A & Group B at it, as long as they don't write anything that would cause Boards legal problems. That's where the line should be. Not how moderators want to shape threads & topics.

Exactly, let people write their opinions, their posts and own them. Less of this interference.

What we see is people making bad faith arguments, never responding to calls to support it with evidence and either repeating it over and over or moving onto the next bad faith arguments.

The single post and then silence approach rarely derails a thread and is in no need of action.

But I repeat - what peole have repeatedly called for is protection to make those bad faith arguments without consequence because that constitutes the bulk of their input. I am calling it out here because those posters are here arguing for site wide protection for a pattern of behaviour most would agree is a form of trolling.

If everyone ignored them they might just give up. I don't mean put them on ignore unless you want to, just scroll on by and don't engage.

not to sure if others have the same problem,

i dont have permission to get into the regional Section,

To be honest the best thing I ever done was to put certain posters on a list that I will not engage with.

I don't want to put them on an ignore list because I like calling them out when they are posting lies and misinformation.

I just will not respond when they come back with their efforts to get you banned.

I will probably slip up sooner or later, but I find I have improved my posting style by ignoring them.

Ideally they would be sanctioned, but ignoring them is the best option if not.

Thanks

its funny i can get into the East, Midlands and Midwest one but not the others 🙈

The thing about is that certain posters on the site, as you say, are great at staying inside the rules while ruining every thread etc..

But, staying juuuusst inside the rules, is still staying inside the rules. Okay their posting style might annoy the shyte out of people, but if they are still staying inside the lines then what can a mod really do.

Your first 2 paragraphs contradict each other, just don't engage at all if you know it's a waste of your time.

I am not sure where I said reporting someone is wrong.

If a poster is reporting people at a much higher rate then normal, then it's worth looking into if that poster is a reason for it.

Well that's when a bit of common sense comes in, tell them to improve their posting style.

I don't believe for a minute Mods don't know who these people are.

It must be annoying for Mods when they log on and see a backlog of reports from a poster, get them to improve their posting and the Mods will have less work to do.