Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

FF missed a trick that could've had them top dog again imo. What they should have done was - Around the end of Q2 2023, made very subtle but continuous public mutterings about what the justice minister should be doing (it's known that FF are unhappy with McEntee, who isn't in fairness) - By the end of Q3 2023 these public comments increase and any subtlety goes out the window.

Q4 2023 has budget, recess, Christmas hols etc, so a lot going on - Start of Q1 2024 they get very vocal and start to personally attack both Justice and Integration ministers and their Dept's, whilst simultaneously indicating that they [FF] will sort it out - Feb 2024, withdraw from the coalition citing no confidence in McEntee/O'Gorman, collapse the Govt and a GE called for the end of March 24 with FF becoming the lead party.

But they blew it so that's all irrelevant

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We simply can't have another 5 years of this - The country will be destroyed beyond all recognition - If FG gets re-elected, they will take it as an endorsement of their policies by the electorate and continue as is or even increase it claiming they have a mandate from the people to do so

We all know that there's no credible opposition party but don't despair - In the next GE we can actually do something and it's not a fait au complet for FFG - We should cram the Dáil to the rafters with independants leading to a Dáil the likes of which has never been seen before in the history of the state - It will be unprecedented, it will be absolute chaos, it will be like herding cats down the M50 - Perfection

Depending on exactly the numbers involved, the big 2 will scramble about trying to cobble together some sort of a coalition desperately trying to cling to power - I know the fear exists that maybe your independent of choice will be tempted by offers of positions etc, but the key to this is to have too many in there. The whole plan revolves on instability and also with the possibility of a new election being held, due to the inability to form a working Govt or, the fact that any coalition cobbled together could easily collapse within 2 years, thus keeping the independents on their toes, mindful that they haven't reached the pension time served yet and they better keep the promises they made pre election

This strategy will put a rocket up the swiss of the big 2 as the electorate deliver a message that cannot be ignored (unlike the many, many polls)

Watch the current players in the Govt now, suddenly find new ways of actually tackling/solving the immigration/fake asylum seekers issues if that happened - International obligations will be turfed right out the window

I should add, the SocDems (as it stands now) have some sort of potential of having a say in Govt formation which would be a disaster as they're as bad as the greens - they must never get that chance

To sum up: Don't think about putting a Govt in for 5 years - Think about giving a massive kicking to FG for what they've done/failed to do and the utter contempt they've shown to the people — the rest will work itself out

Every independant in has the potential of taking a FG/GP/PBP/SD/L/FF/SF out

Haven't read the stats but I'd wager its a certain cohort of Irish people who are violent, same cohort as here.

In truth, large parts of the population have been mostly unaffected by the arrival of asylum seekers. Many areas in Dublin don't have any refugee or asylum centres nearby and there must be many hundreds of towns across the country that don't have asylum seekers living in them or near to them.

The situation with Ukrainian people is different obviously - they are definitely more visible and people would have had more direct experience of them.

So you are the open borders fella that the mob have been looking for?? They will lynch you!

Apologies, I complete misread your intentions. Please keep posting, I want to see this play out. 🙂

How would that equate to large numbers of people being impacted? The existence of tent cities involving homeless asylum seekers along parts of the Grand Canal is clearly wrong and should not be happening, but direct impact on the 1.5m people living in the greater Dublin area would be negligible.

Here is data on AS applications during May 2024.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20240820-1

We received the most, even though we are on the far west edge of the EU.

Do you find many unfavorable situations you can't blame on some ethnic group or another, without reading the stats?

I had thought Ireland had the highest ratio of people seeking refuge from Ukraine.

According to those stats we're not in the top three. And it's predominantly women and children seeking refuge.

I'm still waiting for somebody to tell me how many IPAs are living in Ireland. I'd have thought that something you guys would have a solid idea of, considering how many of the countries woes you blame them for.

The problem is we don't know.

We know how many AS have applied, yes.

But if their claim fails, we don't know where they go.

The Minister admitted that we don't know.

Also, we don't have exit controls at ports, that's another issue.

I don't remember 'pretending' to show that Irish people committed more crimes per capita, but didn't you do a lot of carefully looking at the details there.

Did you pay similar attention to the reports of crimes committed by Iraqi men that you accuse me of 'hand waving' over?