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Vice President Kamala Harris vs Donald Trump 2024

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  • #5762
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,548 ✭✭✭weisses


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523101#Comment_122523101

    And she is polling better than Trump because ???



  • #5763
    Yvonne007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Yvonne007


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523382#Comment_122523382

    People don't like trump.



  • #5764
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,740 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122522789#Comment_122522789

    Not really. Ireland, being a large offshore tax shelter for US corps, has a small amount of US corporate physical presence here - compared to the US.

    Lower taxes on corporate profits in the US, means more money in corporate pockets in the US. That means more investment where jobs make sense - and it's not like, say, Microsoft has moved significant development here, there's some but tiny compared to say, India, where there's lots of staff savings. Microsoft still employees hundreds of thousands in the US. Likewise Amazon.

    So, less tax paid in the US doesn't mean fewer jobs in the US. Lower salaries paid means fewer jobs in the US. Simple stuff.

    Oh, and higher corporate taxes in the US, should it result in more tax take in Ireland, means more goodies for we citizens in Ireland. Fat dole, road projects, pensions with Xmas bonuses, cradle to grave free health care, free high level education, low population, low inbound immigration. Plus the EU does all the heavy legal and scientific/medical lifting to ensure good, safe quality of life here.

    Now if only the pernicious influence of the RCC would disappear.



  • #5765
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,548 ✭✭✭weisses


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523384#Comment_122523384

    Right … so Biden is in cognitive decline, losing him votes.

    Trump's only issue is "people don't like him" which is costing him votes

    That's the narrative you're going with ?



  • #5766
    The Phantom Jipper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    The contrast at the convention looks good for the Dems - normal, sane, explaining how they're going to try make voter's lives better. Meanwhile the latest from the Republicans is waving around tubs that JD Vance has supposedly shot his load into - unclear how that is meant to appeal to normal people.



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  • #5767
    Yvonne007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Yvonne007


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523409#Comment_122523409

    Some people weren't prepared to vote for Biden because of concerns about his ability.

    And yes, Trump's main issue is that some people not only dislike him, but actively hate him.

    Not quite sure why you would question either of those two statements?



  • #5768
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,855 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523415#Comment_122523415

    Clinton referring to them as a "basket of deplorables" 8 years ago seem positively quaint now when you look at them today.

    Wearing nappies , taping sanitary towels to the side of their heads and carrying around jars of imaginary jizz (at least I really hope its imaginary!!!).



  • #5769
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,711 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523423#Comment_122523423

    Have you considered why people hate Trump? You seem to be putting this hatred down to some irrational TDS type of thing, when in act it is grounded in well understood issues.

    If Harris is such a bad candidate, that the GOP and right are so fond of telling everyone, then surely the question has to be how is Trump losing to her. How is the election even in the balance?



  • #5770
    scottser
    Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭scottser


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523417#Comment_122523417

    I'm totally seeing finger guns.



  • #5771
    Shoog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭Shoog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523457#Comment_122523457

    Drole.



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  • #5772
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523363#Comment_122523363

    Accomplished Prosecutor , both parents were accomplished in their respective careers to the point where both merit Wikipedia pages. She rose to the level of VP. Previously held the roles of district attorney, Attorney General of California plus her time as Senator. But you've concluded she has an average IQ, you need some time for some self reflection I think.



  • #5773
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,059 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523457#Comment_122523457

    "I’m not sure what that means, is it a jab at me for having a high IQ"

    Absolutely perfect. Never before has one person summed themselves up so succinctly.



  • #5774
    Shoog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,865 ✭✭✭Shoog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523363#Comment_122523363

    So you finally gave an answer - and it's based on your hunch. Fantastic.



  • #5775
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,548 ✭✭✭weisses


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523457#Comment_122523457

    I'm not having a jab at you for having an IQ…

    Now going by your second sentence …You were practicing that line in front of a mirror, I mean you had to be, cowboy hat and all.



  • #5776
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523457#Comment_122523457

    So what you're implying here is that you could actively do a better job than her as Attorney General, District Attorney, Senator and VP. So you'd be fine getting through the bar exam followed by the prosecutorial career etc? Sure any idiot could do it, right?



  • #5777
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,740 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523504#Comment_122523504

    Don't forget lower-level DA elections, law office work, and grueling work as a prosecutor for years, dealing with the worst of humanity.



  • #5778
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,548 ✭✭✭weisses


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523504#Comment_122523504

    Well you got to have a really .. I mean really high IQ to attribute that to someone with a low IQ ….. us peasants cannot see this



  • #5779
    Field east
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭Field east


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523328#Comment_122523328

    is it not going to be substantially ‘level pegging’ until it comes to the six swing states. My understanding then is ,irrespective of the number of voters voting for either canditate, that the individuals who make up the electoral college decide who they want to vote for irrespective of the popular vote. And DT has very strongly hinted that he has the majority of them ‘in his pocket’ to win the election. Did he not encourage voters not to vote - there is nips need to.
    Any boardie out there know how the individuals that make up the electoral college are identified /elected/mandated?
    If the above is true, then we are in dangerous times.

    I understand now why some boardies are saying that KH would need to win the popular vote in some swing states by 10%+ so that the College will find it very hard to cast their votes contrary to the popular vote



  • #5780
    crusd
    Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭crusd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122522582#Comment_122522582

    The amount of otherwise seemingly intelligent people who have been convinced this nonsense is the case by the uber wealthy is staggering. Volunteering to be modern day serfs for the overlords who one time controlled the land and used the people to exploit its value to only their own benefit and now control infrastructure and resources and use the people to exploit its value to their own benefit.

    And its not a capitalism vs socialism discussion, its a feudalism vs economic independence discussion



  • #5781
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,270 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523560#Comment_122523560

    I'd just like to say, can we never use the words "level pegging" in Trump related threads, cause it's all just too easy to imagine. *Gets coat*



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  • #5782
    crusd
    Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭crusd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122522897#Comment_122522897

    😂 Socialism. In the minds of MAGA loons. In the real world the Democrats are right of centre. Maybe Bernie and AOC may be a smidge left of centre.



  • #5783
    Babyreignbow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭Babyreignbow


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122522818#Comment_122522818

    The Journal did a nice timely update on the issue last night. I know that she has already addressed protestors at previous campaigns and I'm aware she wasn't present during Bibi's visit to congress which is probably more relevant all things considered.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/gaza-protest-dnc-6467035-Aug2024/

    Use your mighty arms to slay the fierce enemy that is selfish desire




  • #5784
    crusd
    Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭crusd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523457#Comment_122523457

    I’m not sure what that means, is it a jab at me for having a high IQ, 

     I did steal Comrade Kamala from x (thanks Elon), but I did come up with USSA all by myself, pretty chuffed at that so I am.

    Hmmm



  • #5785
    weisses
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,548 ✭✭✭weisses


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523665#Comment_122523665

    Hmmmm

    https://youtu.be/WLkS5gTNm9c?si=5pdgLOE9h-S7yAs8&t=43



  • #5786
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,803 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    It really is amazing it could be the word "Weird" that brings down Trump and stops him being re-elected

    Not his awful record as President not his treasonous crimes or his financial crimes or his conviction in civil court for sexual assault no none of that it was the word "Werid".



  • #5787
    Flaneur OBrien
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,041 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523713#Comment_122523713

    Honestly it feels like the time the boy pointed out that the emperor wasn't wearing any clothes



  • #5788
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,549 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523457#Comment_122523457

    To paraphrase Tywin Lannister, any man who says they have a high IQ, doesn't have a high IQ



  • #5789
    notsoobtuse
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭notsoobtuse


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122522501#Comment_122522501

    It has been hotly debated but the actual text of the US Constitution reads “"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." This supports my interpretation. And I can play Founding Fathers thoughts on the subject as well as you… John Adams: 'Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.'

    And SCOTUS has been wrong before and have corrected their thinking in the past.

    I tried watching Biden’s speech at comrade Kamala’s coronation. I really did. The lies and dishonesty ultimately became too much for me and I had to turn if off when after railing against Trump’s “very fine people” remark remark about both sides in the Charlottesville protest, Biden says “Those protesters out in the street. They’ve got a point.” of the pro-Hamas destructive demonstrations outside the DNC and the violence and riots we've witnessed on campuses.

    And re the “mainstream media nonsense” earlier comment, all I could think of regarding people who say things like this is they are in the grip of delusion. The US mainstream media betrays all journalistic integrity when it comes to Trump, yet have no problem turning a terrible candidate in Kamala Harris into the Second Coming. They demand Trump answer tough questions but give Harris a complete pass. They continue to preach to us the proven LIES that Trump conspired with Russia to win the 2016 election, that he praised neo-Nazi marchers, that he advised Americans to inject bleach, and that he promised a “bloodbath” if he loses in November. They believe Trump is an existential threat to democracy and a fascist, and therefore feel their utter corruption is heroic. That is our mainstream media… void of self respect!



  • #5790
    randd1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭randd1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523601#Comment_122523601

    What I don't get about the MAGA crowd is that they love socialism!!!

    All those failed red states being propped up by blue state federal taxes - Socialism.

    Red states having the highest rates of poverty. Combated with social security - Socialism.

    NFL draft - Socialism in sport.

    Subsidized healthcare - Socialism.

    Support the police. Police that are paid by taxes - Socialism.

    Public education so working class children are not priced out of education - Socialism.

    Minimum wage - Socialism.

    It's almost as if they're too thick to know what it is. I genuinely think that Trump is only as popular as he is because so many Americans have become dumber and dumber. Homer Simpson look like a genius compared to them.



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  • #5791
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,855 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122523560#Comment_122523560

    It's not so much that they can simply "choose" who to vote for, typically they are obligated to cast their votes for the winner of the popular vote in their state.

    However , the people who certify the results - What we'd call the Returning officer here have the ability to refuse to certify the results or to challenge the results delaying certification - Something that has been made easier to do in Georgia recently , although it's being challenged in the courts.

    One of the things that Trump tried and failed to do last time was to delay those certifications (they all have to be submitted by around December 12th I think). If enough States votes remain "uncertified" and no candidate can reach the required 270 EC votes then the decision goes to the House and Senate - The House pick the President and the Senate picks the VP - It's called a "Contingent Election"

    In the Senate it's a straight up vote with all Senators voting so with the current state of the Senate it's unclear what happens as there is disagreement on whether the VP can cast the deciding vote.

    The House is where the big problem is - Each State gets a single vote and that is decided by which party has the most seats in the House from that State.

    By those rules, today the GOP have 27 votes and the Democrats have 23 - There is no obligation for the House to take account of the actual result in their State when casting this vote , which is a huge problem.

    This is potentially the much easier path to screwing with the result as if they can simply hold up the certification long enough it triggers this scenario , Trump wins.



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